Cinema 1, 2 & 3 by Angelika

1001 3rd Avenue,
New York, NY 10021

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bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on July 2, 2017 at 8:06 pm

Hello-

to Al A. many thanks for you reply. indeed the exhibition business since the 62 St. & 1st Ave. first opened. the Cinema 1 was for years one of the leading “art houses” in the city. case in point. the World Premiere engagement of Ingmar Bergman’s Oscar winning Cries and Whispers was held at the Cinema 1 not in his native Sweden.

I am a native New Yorker and lifelong moviegoer and believe the Cinema ½/3 can weather any potential competition from the revamped 62 St.& 1st Ave. if it returned to its roots so to speak. what do you say?

John Fink
John Fink on June 29, 2017 at 11:40 pm

Re: masking – I can vouch for Cinema #1 – they even had proper masking for a press screening of Hateful Eight in all of its ultra-wide scope glory.

As for new builds – Alamo and iPic have masking, along with Metrograph. Alamo Brooklyn will also be getting 70MM for Dunkirk according to a Facebook post today – hopefully they’ll also bring in some repertory 70MM at some point too.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on June 29, 2017 at 11:26 pm

bigjoe, the industry has changed a lot since then. Back then there were ten or twelve hits out at once for several months. The studios preferred long runs on third avenue and offered incentives for those long runs. Nowaways there are one or two hit for a few weeks and the studios want as many seats as possible for the first two weekends. If you don’t have the big hit of the weekend, your house is empty. Imagine what would show at Cinema 1,2,3 if “WONDER WOMAN”, “TRANSFORMERS” and “CARS 3” were showing elsewhere. This location could become mostly an art house once again or it could be further split for more screens, but as I stated before, the economics are tough and the landlord would probably not approve if they are looking to develop the property.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on June 29, 2017 at 11:01 pm

Hello Again-

to Al. A.. many thanks for your reply. now when the 62 St. & 1st Ave. opened it was not only a state of the art facility but offered the studios multiple screens for a BIG film. to which it didn’t save the theater than why would it now?

being an avid moviegoer I would say the fact that the 62St.& 1st Ave. is all the way over on 1st Ave. is a much bigger problem to overcome than any competition the revamped 62 St. & 1st Ave. might possibly give the Cinema ½/3.

moviebuff82
moviebuff82 on June 28, 2017 at 7:41 pm

This theater is 55 years old.

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on June 28, 2017 at 7:36 pm

I agree Howard. Regal here also did away with using masking in the smaller theaters where the masking would be vertical. The large theaters that are wall to wall screens still use the horizontal masking. Epic Theaters a smaller chain was using masking a few years back even though the day I saw My Fair Lady they used the masking for the scope previews but not for MFL that was in 2.20. The RPX screen here at Regal annoys the hell out of me. I have seen two films in it Sully and Beauty And The Beast And both were presented in 2.35 ratio on the RPX screen I did hear Wonder Women was shown on the full RPX screemn

xbs2034
xbs2034 on June 28, 2017 at 2:37 pm

I’ve seen Cinema 1 use proper masking for scope, flat, and even 2.20, and pretty sure the other screens have masking also. FWIW, AMC and Regal in Manhattan mostly use masking between flat and scope at least.

The most notable exception I’ve found is that AMC Kips Bay has abandoned masking, and its IMAX screen (which never had masking but played Riddick for example in pillarboxed 1.9) has just decided to use constant scope and always fill the screen. Which works great for most films that play there (may even be beneficial for the new Transformers where the constant AR switches even between shots in dialogue conversations has been criticized) but certainly leads to awkward framing in some films like Inferno and Secret Life of Pets.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on June 28, 2017 at 12:43 pm

AMC & Regal multiplex remodels abandon “masking” so for example, if the screen is set for “flat” films (1.85 aspect ratio) “scope” films (2.39 aspect ratio) are “letterboxed” like scope films are when presented correctly on your HD flat screen TVs. I find this lack of masking to be distracting, and do not wish to patronize those theaters. Does the City Cinema 1,2,3, use proper masking?

John Fink
John Fink on June 28, 2017 at 4:47 am

I believe Reading owns the building and land – they have options on the table with a partner but it doesn’t appear as if they have tenants or actual plans for what a new build on the site would look like and include – just feasibility studies. I don’t think any plans have been presented to the city or community board so I’m going to guess Cinema 1,2,3 is safe for another year or two (they’ve been talking redevelopment for a while with no definite plan in sight). From the photos on Yelp it does appear it was in rough shape prior to the recliner reseat – it didn’t get a huge overhaul other than new paint, carpets, flat screen movie-posters both inside and out, and the new tiers in Cinema #1’s balcony. I don’t get here nearly enough but it’s a much nicer experience than AMC – clean, good presentation, good snacks – actually in that regard its the complete opposite of AMC Amazing.

Mike (saps)
Mike (saps) on June 28, 2017 at 12:50 am

Yes, as it is currently offering Wonder Woman on two screens, and in 70mm no less…!

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on June 27, 2017 at 8:31 pm

Yes, the location is still a problem, but it an also offer blockbusters multiple screens and showtimes. That is how the Ziegfeld lost out to the 42nd street locations.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on June 27, 2017 at 7:56 pm

Hello-

to Al. A.–

while this theater on occasion does play a big mainstream film mostly it plays artsy films. so I don’t see it being in peril that much whenever the 62St. & 1st. Ave. reopens.

another question. regardless of how up to date the 62St. & 1st. Ave. redo is won’t it have the same problem the theater has always had. namely its all the way over on 1st. Ave.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on June 27, 2017 at 6:25 pm

Each deal is different, but the landlord will rarely contribute anything unless they are trying to get a lease renewal. The opposite might be the case here.

optimist008
optimist008 on June 27, 2017 at 5:57 pm

When they install recliners, does the landlord pay for the entire renovation or just some of it???

Read that due to the retail downturn, many retail chains now have extra leverage with leases, renovations, etc.

FYI: AMC Bay Plaza, Bronx renovations cost slightly over $ 7 million as per it’s listing on bidclerk.com for recliner installation and much other work.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on June 27, 2017 at 1:47 pm

Perhaps an upper floor multiplex can replace it as part of the deal. Three screens is tough economics these days in Manhattan in an area with an ageing population and newer competition even if it once was the prime movie-going block in the city.

John Fink
John Fink on June 27, 2017 at 3:32 am

Cinema 1,2,3 was updated with all recliner seating a few years ago and a few modern appointments (flat screen monitors throughout the lobby and two concession stands – once featuring coffee and desserts and the other, upstairs with traditional movie items). All and all it’s a modern mini-multiplex while keeping a lot of its 60s architecture and classic charm – and both times I’ve been there I found the presentation to be excellent. Cinema 1 is 70MM capable and they often have a city-wide exclusive on titles where it is available. The reason it may go is that Reading owns the property and may put it to a more productive/lucrative use – but they’ve also been saying that for years…. (Reading/City Cinemas also offer “Recline for $9 after 9" on weekdays with half-price concessions here – a hell of a good deal anywhere, but especially in NYC)

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on June 26, 2017 at 11:45 pm

bigjoe59, the building was being used as a storage facility. Cinemex is doing a complete remodel and will be in putting in digital projectors, recliners and food service to seats. With five or six more screens in the area, the Cinema 1,2,3 and the Beekman’s total five screens will now have to share product in the zone with a newer and better facility. The last time Cineplex Odeon opened there it was just another out of the way multiplex in an over-screened zone. (The plan to close the Baronet/Cornet & Beekman was delayed for years.) Now the Cinema 1,2,3 will have to pay 2017 rent with less product and inferior older facilities.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on June 26, 2017 at 8:47 pm

Hello-

to AL A.–

first whoever is taking over the 62 St. & 1st Ave. multiplex wouldn’t they have to do a fairly complete renovation? the place has been boarded up so to speak and gathering dust for yearsssssssssss.

secondly if and when the 62 St. & 1st Ave. reopened why would it give the Cinema 1 that much competition? this theater survived the first opening period.

Al Alvarez
Al Alvarez on June 26, 2017 at 8:36 pm

Once Cinemex re-opens at Clearview’s First & 62nd we may see some movement here. Right now they can get their pick of the top films without much competition.

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on June 26, 2017 at 7:38 pm

Bigjoe 59 it’s been rumored for at least 10 years. Not sure if it is just rumors or legit. The eastside has lost all their theaters except this one and the beekman Twin

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on June 25, 2017 at 9:10 pm

Hello-

is there any info at all about how eminent this theater’s closing might be? remember the eminent closing of the Ziegfeld took yearssssssss to actually happen.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on June 25, 2017 at 12:22 am

Wonder Woman now in its 5th weekend in 70mm here in the large auditorium.

xbs2034
xbs2034 on June 5, 2017 at 10:17 pm

The only update I can see as for a possible timetable for a closing is in the 2016 financial reports from Reading International (the parent company) published in March 2017.

They mention redevelopment of the Cinemas 1,2,3 property (along with a few other properties) as part of their “Three Year Business Strategy”, though no target date for when in those three years the redevelopment will be completed or specific details about closing the theater.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on June 5, 2017 at 9:45 pm

Hello-

I read the post you stated. I was surprised by your rather recent post since I hadn’t read anything anywhere. articles about the Ziegfeld’s closing were found everywhere. why not this theater.

also you apparently didn’t my sarcastic comment about trendy hipsters. all these much loved movie theaters get razed just to build a retail shop of some sort for trendy hipsters. so it can apply to this theater as well. do we really need another such retail space.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on June 5, 2017 at 8:13 pm

Go back to Nov 30, 2016 post to read re eventual loss of this theater. Nobody has posted yet any timetable or closing date. Often people do post in this site as to NYC theater closures before they happen which is helpful so people can visit a last time as I did with the Ziegfeld, Astor Plaza, Beekman, and Tower East, among my favorites. As to the Sunshine, please post on that theater’s page.