I know nothing about it, yet, but I wonder if the original Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner had a similar response across this country (USA) from all of the ‘normal’ people.
Luckily, I’m not really concerned with proving or disproving his point. Does he have a point, at this point? It seems to have been lost somewhere in his sermon. I’m not trying to uphold some high and mighty opinion of myself on here. Just giving my opinion. This isn’t a beauty contest and I’m not trying to win favor with you or anyone else’s opinion of what an upstanding left wing homosexual should be. It is heartwarming, however, to know that I don’t have to be worried about being called a name by someone on the ‘right’, as you say.
‘I added comment ot this thread only to say that I thought (and still do) playing Brokeback would be a mistake in MY market.’
Valid point. Every person’s opinion should be heard. However, you went on to start a debate filled with silly statistics, religious overtones, bigotry, and nothing really to do with the issue at hand. This is about whether that theater in Utah should or should not have pulled Brokeback Mountain, not whether a majority of Americans think that gay sex is ‘normal’. You even brought your personal family problems into the mix and showed your simple-minded true colors. By the way…..what theater is it that you own?
Very well put saps. I was getting a little nauseated after jnjeisen’s last blathering litany. You handled it with a bit more finesse than what I had planned. I wouldn’t hold your breath on finding out which theater the poor, wretched creature owns.
I think I’m going to order this dvd. It sounds very sad, but enlightening. Plus, its for a very good cause. I wonder if there is any mention of the theater Ignatius Reilly frequented in the Confederacy of Dunces.
An exteme position on either side of this topic is detrimental to the spirit of this website. I realize that the gamut of users is a broad scope from right-wing godchasers to left-wing homos (I can use that word, I’m as gay as a jaybird), but the true beauty of movies is that there is a movie for everyone, EVERYONE!. What a boring world it would be if all movies had to be about ‘normal’ people or ‘normal’ situations. Although some theaters were originally built for stage performance, most existing today were built for the sole purpose of people enjoying movies. We have mobility, we can get up and leave if we don’t like the movie. Some of us will even get our admission money back. There is no risk here. If the theater in Utah had already booked Brokeback Mountain and then withdrew because of a few complaints, then I believe they are sad and weak. If they decided before that this wasn’t going to make money from their neighborhood and declined, then I think that is their prerogative. I would like to find a theater that was showing John Waters, Bette Davis, and pre-code Stanwyck movies. I know that won’t happen, but I certainly wouldn’t cause a big stink because another theater was only showing movies that had premiered on the Lifetime Channel.
Where did you get those figures, from Pat Robertson? Don’t start spouting off statistics if you aren’t going to back them up. Secondly, what makes you so in tune with the ‘gay community’ that you can go around telling others what is concerning the ‘gay community’?
This movie has no agenda that says this is normal behavior. It’s simply a story. Is what the majority thinks is ‘normal’ the only thing that should be produced? That sounds really exciting! One of the greatest books and movies of the last century in my opinion is Lolita. It certainly is not normal, and it certainly doesn’t make me want to go out and rape teenage girls. If you don’t like certain subjects, don’t watch them. Other people might be interested, so you might consider that they have the intelligence to choose for themselves. Nobody is forcing you to watch something that doesn’t interest you.
Thanks John, I didn’t know about all that. Hopefully, the community will show the theater how it feels and go see it at the other theater showing it in the area. I know there are plenty of gay Mormons, I live near West Hollywood and they seem to escape from Utah and come here, so maybe they will see the movie and prove that there is an audience. The big question I have is if the movie is playing anywhere in Wyoming.
I thought the Chronicles of Narnia was great movie. I’ve read the book many times since childhood and think the veiled Christianity in it is fine because it is well written and now filmed well. I have no hostility towards right wing people. The people in the extreme on either side do damage with their antics. The fact that the group that would have problems with Brokeback mountain is the right wing crowd is simply a fact, not hostility. If you don’t think you can make money on the movie, then you shouldn’t show it. In the end, making money and keeping theaters open is what matters.
I don’t know what the big deal is about this movie. I’ve seen it twice and there is more straight sex in it than gay sex. I think it’s good if a couple of theaters don’t want to show it because it only makes the media jump on it and the movie ends up getting a lot of free publicity. Those right wingers will never learn that if they just ignore it, most people won’t even hear about it in the first place.
I can’t remember if those stores that are in the Roxie only take up the lobby or if they use the whole space. I hope they didn’t level the floor like they did at the Westlake Theater.
Here’s the rest of that article, my computer froze up or something:
“Track of the Cat,” had been in the darkness since a break on the previous day at 3:30 p.m. The body was taken to the County Morgue. The victim was described as 5 feet 1 inch in height, about 138 pounds, of stocky build, about 40 years of age. She had auburn hair, hazel eyes and false teeth.
Another death in this theater, I wonder if it is haunted….
(Dec. 25, 1954)
Only clues to the identity of a woman who slashed her wrists and died early yesterday between a row of seats in a downtown all-night theater were a Canadian dollar bill and a telephone number written on a cafe receipt, homicide detectives reported. The body was found by a patron, Claude R. Williams, 2108 S Maple St., when the house lights went up at 5 a.m. yesterday after the last show in the Roxie Theater, at 518 S Broadway.
Police said both the woman’s wrists were deeply slashed and blood had flowed down the sloping floor of the theater past several rows of seats. Beside the body detectives found a double-edged razor blade which evidently was the intrument of her suicide. The woman wore a brown wool suit and brown suede shoes. Beside her lay a black nylon raincoat. Her brown leather purse held only $2.62 in cash, the Canadian bill and a receipt from a cafe at 10113 W Washington Blvd. Detectives said the telephone number handwritten on the receipt was the number of the cafe. The cafe propietor, Dave Brandt, told police, however, that he could recall no woman answering the description of the suicide. Detectives said the woman apparently slashed her wrists, slumped to the floor and died without attracting any notice in the dark theater. No patrons reported hearing an outcry. The night manager, Clarence Warner, said the house, which was showing “Crossed Swords,” starring Errol Flynn and Gina Lollobrigida, and the psychological adventure, “Track of the Cat,”…
had been in
(Dec. 17, 1932)
Complete pictures of the Trojan-Notre Dame game will be shown for three days, starting tomorrow at the New Roxie Theater. The film is in both slow motion, and ordinary speed, with all of the important plays being shown at the slow pace.
(Aug. 5, 1943)
FILM THEATER MANAGER DIES IN BOX OFFICE
A customer stepped up to the box office of the Roxie Theater, 518 S. Broadway. “One ticket, please,” he said. There was no response. The man in the glass enclosure, Harry R. Metzger, 37, mangager, seemed coldly unconcerned. His eyes stared straight ahead. The customer called attendants. Metzger, they found, was dead, apparently of heart disease.
I wonder if the Hyman theater was the same building as the Garrick. The Hyman is mentioned quite often from 1910 until 1912 and then there is nothing more.
(Sept. 11, 1910)
Plans for notable and extensive building improvements at the vacant southeast corner of Broadway and Eighth street are in course of preparation in the offices of Architects Train & Williams, the builder being the Leasehold Company. In all, the structures planned will occupy a frontage of 272 feet on Eighth by 50 feet on Broadway. Bids for the construction will be called for this week. The improvements at the corner will consist of an attractive one-story brick moving picture theater building, to be known as the Hyman Theater. This structure will have a frontage of 50 feet on Broadway by 150 feet on Eighth. The exterior will be cement plaster over brick, the front being elaborately treated in staff ornamentation. The show-house entrance will be in tile and marble.
(June 14, 1911)
Another bill of novelties, music and comedy is to be found at the Hyman Theater this week. Mack & McKay have a singing and dancing act,…….First-run pictures are always seen at Hyman’s and with the diversity of subject they take first place. The Hyman orchestra under the direction of Miss Bessie Hardy, plays all the latest eastern music.
(April 29, 1912)
Robert Emmet Boyle, the cripple who shot and almost instantly killed George Coblentz, No. 818 South Spring street, in the Hyman Theater bar, No. 216 West Eighth street, late Saturday night, would have been taken to the Police Station by his mother, Mrs. Margaret M. Boyle, had she been physically able to make the long trip at that late hour……
I think this theater was called the Garrick pretty consistently from around 1915-1927, even after the remodel.
(Nov. 28, 1915)
How her actions, while she was wandering in a condition of aphasia brought tragedy into the life of a beautiful young society girl, is said to be powerfully shown in “Body and Soul,” the unusual photodrama, which heads the programme opening today at the Garrick Theater.
(March 5, 1916)
TODAY AND TONIGHT AT THE
NEW GARRICK
BROADWAY AT EIGHTH
Your last opportunity to see the beautiful Audrey Munson
The world’s famous art model, in
INSPIRATION
The picture that has produced the biggest attendance in the history of The New Garrick Theater
(April 24, 1916)
Mary Pickford is seen in one of her best dramatic roles in “Hearts Adrift” at the Garrick Theater this week.
(Dec. 27, 1921)
All decked-out in a new set of trimmings, which make its interior exceptionally inviting, the Garrick Theater reopened Sunday to a large attendance of holiday crowds. The house had been closed for some weeks previously while it was being remodeled, with a view to making it an abiding-place for firt-run attractions. The decorations are quiet, in the prevailing mode of theater interiors, and the space seems to have been somewhat amplified by the new arrangement of chairs, so that a very attractive home for the cinema presentation has been provided.
(Oct. 18, 1922)
A new idea in motion-picture programs is to be initiated at the Garrick Theater next Monday, when that playhouse will radically change its policy. The plan is to present a diversified program of short reel subjects, combining in one bill dramas, comedies, travelogues, films of scientific interest, news weeklies, fashion, cartoons, educationals, Western dramas, and other varieties of short productions.
Here’s something about the final days of the Garrick Theater:
(March 6, 1927)
Wrecking of the old Garrick Theater, located on the southeast corner of Eighth and Broadway and for many years a landmark of downtown Los Angeles, was started last week, to make way for a new $500,000 playhouse to be constructed there for the Gumbiner Theatrical Enterprises. Plans for the new theater, to be known as the Tower Theater, have been completed by Architect S. Charles Lee and according to the specifications the structure is to be one of the finest in the city. The interior is to be finished in marble and bronze in a method of execution never before attempted, according to Lee. The seating capacity of the theater will be 900. The exterior of the building will be featured by a 100-foot tower of terra cotta and this will not, it was said, infringe upon the height-limit building ordinance of the city. Contract for the work has been awarded to R.E. Campbell and under the terms of the document the building is to be completed within six months.
Interesting. I guess I’m a bit confused on what “too real for our people” means.
I know nothing about it, yet, but I wonder if the original Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner had a similar response across this country (USA) from all of the ‘normal’ people.
Amen, KenRoe!
Luckily, I’m not really concerned with proving or disproving his point. Does he have a point, at this point? It seems to have been lost somewhere in his sermon. I’m not trying to uphold some high and mighty opinion of myself on here. Just giving my opinion. This isn’t a beauty contest and I’m not trying to win favor with you or anyone else’s opinion of what an upstanding left wing homosexual should be. It is heartwarming, however, to know that I don’t have to be worried about being called a name by someone on the ‘right’, as you say.
‘I added comment ot this thread only to say that I thought (and still do) playing Brokeback would be a mistake in MY market.’
Valid point. Every person’s opinion should be heard. However, you went on to start a debate filled with silly statistics, religious overtones, bigotry, and nothing really to do with the issue at hand. This is about whether that theater in Utah should or should not have pulled Brokeback Mountain, not whether a majority of Americans think that gay sex is ‘normal’. You even brought your personal family problems into the mix and showed your simple-minded true colors. By the way…..what theater is it that you own?
Thanks jnjeisen. Apology accepted.
Very well put saps. I was getting a little nauseated after jnjeisen’s last blathering litany. You handled it with a bit more finesse than what I had planned. I wouldn’t hold your breath on finding out which theater the poor, wretched creature owns.
Let’s try to keep this on the issue at hand….what’s next, a discussion of the famous secret Mormon underwear?
I agree with John, but at least the truth came out. It’s personal issues that bring forth the fire and brimstone. Peace out.
I think I’m going to order this dvd. It sounds very sad, but enlightening. Plus, its for a very good cause. I wonder if there is any mention of the theater Ignatius Reilly frequented in the Confederacy of Dunces.
An exteme position on either side of this topic is detrimental to the spirit of this website. I realize that the gamut of users is a broad scope from right-wing godchasers to left-wing homos (I can use that word, I’m as gay as a jaybird), but the true beauty of movies is that there is a movie for everyone, EVERYONE!. What a boring world it would be if all movies had to be about ‘normal’ people or ‘normal’ situations. Although some theaters were originally built for stage performance, most existing today were built for the sole purpose of people enjoying movies. We have mobility, we can get up and leave if we don’t like the movie. Some of us will even get our admission money back. There is no risk here. If the theater in Utah had already booked Brokeback Mountain and then withdrew because of a few complaints, then I believe they are sad and weak. If they decided before that this wasn’t going to make money from their neighborhood and declined, then I think that is their prerogative. I would like to find a theater that was showing John Waters, Bette Davis, and pre-code Stanwyck movies. I know that won’t happen, but I certainly wouldn’t cause a big stink because another theater was only showing movies that had premiered on the Lifetime Channel.
Where did you get those figures, from Pat Robertson? Don’t start spouting off statistics if you aren’t going to back them up. Secondly, what makes you so in tune with the ‘gay community’ that you can go around telling others what is concerning the ‘gay community’?
This movie has no agenda that says this is normal behavior. It’s simply a story. Is what the majority thinks is ‘normal’ the only thing that should be produced? That sounds really exciting! One of the greatest books and movies of the last century in my opinion is Lolita. It certainly is not normal, and it certainly doesn’t make me want to go out and rape teenage girls. If you don’t like certain subjects, don’t watch them. Other people might be interested, so you might consider that they have the intelligence to choose for themselves. Nobody is forcing you to watch something that doesn’t interest you.
Thanks John, I didn’t know about all that. Hopefully, the community will show the theater how it feels and go see it at the other theater showing it in the area. I know there are plenty of gay Mormons, I live near West Hollywood and they seem to escape from Utah and come here, so maybe they will see the movie and prove that there is an audience. The big question I have is if the movie is playing anywhere in Wyoming.
I thought the Chronicles of Narnia was great movie. I’ve read the book many times since childhood and think the veiled Christianity in it is fine because it is well written and now filmed well. I have no hostility towards right wing people. The people in the extreme on either side do damage with their antics. The fact that the group that would have problems with Brokeback mountain is the right wing crowd is simply a fact, not hostility. If you don’t think you can make money on the movie, then you shouldn’t show it. In the end, making money and keeping theaters open is what matters.
I don’t know what the big deal is about this movie. I’ve seen it twice and there is more straight sex in it than gay sex. I think it’s good if a couple of theaters don’t want to show it because it only makes the media jump on it and the movie ends up getting a lot of free publicity. Those right wingers will never learn that if they just ignore it, most people won’t even hear about it in the first place.
I can’t remember if those stores that are in the Roxie only take up the lobby or if they use the whole space. I hope they didn’t level the floor like they did at the Westlake Theater.
Joe, there are a few new and grisly entries on the Roxie page.
Here’s the rest of that article, my computer froze up or something:
“Track of the Cat,” had been in the darkness since a break on the previous day at 3:30 p.m. The body was taken to the County Morgue. The victim was described as 5 feet 1 inch in height, about 138 pounds, of stocky build, about 40 years of age. She had auburn hair, hazel eyes and false teeth.
Another death in this theater, I wonder if it is haunted….
(Dec. 25, 1954)
Only clues to the identity of a woman who slashed her wrists and died early yesterday between a row of seats in a downtown all-night theater were a Canadian dollar bill and a telephone number written on a cafe receipt, homicide detectives reported. The body was found by a patron, Claude R. Williams, 2108 S Maple St., when the house lights went up at 5 a.m. yesterday after the last show in the Roxie Theater, at 518 S Broadway.
Police said both the woman’s wrists were deeply slashed and blood had flowed down the sloping floor of the theater past several rows of seats. Beside the body detectives found a double-edged razor blade which evidently was the intrument of her suicide. The woman wore a brown wool suit and brown suede shoes. Beside her lay a black nylon raincoat. Her brown leather purse held only $2.62 in cash, the Canadian bill and a receipt from a cafe at 10113 W Washington Blvd. Detectives said the telephone number handwritten on the receipt was the number of the cafe. The cafe propietor, Dave Brandt, told police, however, that he could recall no woman answering the description of the suicide. Detectives said the woman apparently slashed her wrists, slumped to the floor and died without attracting any notice in the dark theater. No patrons reported hearing an outcry. The night manager, Clarence Warner, said the house, which was showing “Crossed Swords,” starring Errol Flynn and Gina Lollobrigida, and the psychological adventure, “Track of the Cat,”…
had been in
Vintage ESPN?
(Dec. 17, 1932)
Complete pictures of the Trojan-Notre Dame game will be shown for three days, starting tomorrow at the New Roxie Theater. The film is in both slow motion, and ordinary speed, with all of the important plays being shown at the slow pace.
Frightening….
(Aug. 5, 1943)
FILM THEATER MANAGER DIES IN BOX OFFICE
A customer stepped up to the box office of the Roxie Theater, 518 S. Broadway. “One ticket, please,” he said. There was no response. The man in the glass enclosure, Harry R. Metzger, 37, mangager, seemed coldly unconcerned. His eyes stared straight ahead. The customer called attendants. Metzger, they found, was dead, apparently of heart disease.
I saw something about the San Diego Hyman also. Garrick was more frustrating to weed out since there was a Garrick in Chicago, New York, and London.
I wonder if the Hyman theater was the same building as the Garrick. The Hyman is mentioned quite often from 1910 until 1912 and then there is nothing more.
(Sept. 11, 1910)
Plans for notable and extensive building improvements at the vacant southeast corner of Broadway and Eighth street are in course of preparation in the offices of Architects Train & Williams, the builder being the Leasehold Company. In all, the structures planned will occupy a frontage of 272 feet on Eighth by 50 feet on Broadway. Bids for the construction will be called for this week. The improvements at the corner will consist of an attractive one-story brick moving picture theater building, to be known as the Hyman Theater. This structure will have a frontage of 50 feet on Broadway by 150 feet on Eighth. The exterior will be cement plaster over brick, the front being elaborately treated in staff ornamentation. The show-house entrance will be in tile and marble.
(June 14, 1911)
Another bill of novelties, music and comedy is to be found at the Hyman Theater this week. Mack & McKay have a singing and dancing act,…….First-run pictures are always seen at Hyman’s and with the diversity of subject they take first place. The Hyman orchestra under the direction of Miss Bessie Hardy, plays all the latest eastern music.
(April 29, 1912)
Robert Emmet Boyle, the cripple who shot and almost instantly killed George Coblentz, No. 818 South Spring street, in the Hyman Theater bar, No. 216 West Eighth street, late Saturday night, would have been taken to the Police Station by his mother, Mrs. Margaret M. Boyle, had she been physically able to make the long trip at that late hour……
I think this theater was called the Garrick pretty consistently from around 1915-1927, even after the remodel.
(Nov. 28, 1915)
How her actions, while she was wandering in a condition of aphasia brought tragedy into the life of a beautiful young society girl, is said to be powerfully shown in “Body and Soul,” the unusual photodrama, which heads the programme opening today at the Garrick Theater.
(March 5, 1916)
TODAY AND TONIGHT AT THE
NEW GARRICK
BROADWAY AT EIGHTH
Your last opportunity to see the beautiful Audrey Munson
The world’s famous art model, in
INSPIRATION
The picture that has produced the biggest attendance in the history of The New Garrick Theater
(April 24, 1916)
Mary Pickford is seen in one of her best dramatic roles in “Hearts Adrift” at the Garrick Theater this week.
(Dec. 27, 1921)
All decked-out in a new set of trimmings, which make its interior exceptionally inviting, the Garrick Theater reopened Sunday to a large attendance of holiday crowds. The house had been closed for some weeks previously while it was being remodeled, with a view to making it an abiding-place for firt-run attractions. The decorations are quiet, in the prevailing mode of theater interiors, and the space seems to have been somewhat amplified by the new arrangement of chairs, so that a very attractive home for the cinema presentation has been provided.
(Oct. 18, 1922)
A new idea in motion-picture programs is to be initiated at the Garrick Theater next Monday, when that playhouse will radically change its policy. The plan is to present a diversified program of short reel subjects, combining in one bill dramas, comedies, travelogues, films of scientific interest, news weeklies, fashion, cartoons, educationals, Western dramas, and other varieties of short productions.
Here’s something about the final days of the Garrick Theater:
(March 6, 1927)
Wrecking of the old Garrick Theater, located on the southeast corner of Eighth and Broadway and for many years a landmark of downtown Los Angeles, was started last week, to make way for a new $500,000 playhouse to be constructed there for the Gumbiner Theatrical Enterprises. Plans for the new theater, to be known as the Tower Theater, have been completed by Architect S. Charles Lee and according to the specifications the structure is to be one of the finest in the city. The interior is to be finished in marble and bronze in a method of execution never before attempted, according to Lee. The seating capacity of the theater will be 900. The exterior of the building will be featured by a 100-foot tower of terra cotta and this will not, it was said, infringe upon the height-limit building ordinance of the city. Contract for the work has been awarded to R.E. Campbell and under the terms of the document the building is to be completed within six months.