Cinerama Hollywood

6360 Sunset Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA 90028

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DavidZornig
DavidZornig on April 14, 2021 at 6:57 pm

Variety piece on Cinerama Dome.

https://variety.com/gallery/cinerama-dome-photos-history-arclight-hollywood/cinerama-theater-hollywood-1963/?fbclid=IwAR1D02BkUAbkKJf7GwR2jb62n5MXqon9LQrkDRaYgQie5EZ-5whufgy9HCQ

CP200
CP200 on April 14, 2021 at 3:55 pm

Andy good news yet on when it will be stripped out all the seats thrown into the skip along with projection and sound system thrown in the skip with wrecking ball and make way for practical use for the homeless as cinema is non-essential. Just my 1 pence. (wink)

RogerA
RogerA on April 14, 2021 at 12:01 pm

The theater is protected as a Landmark I believe

And it can’t mysteriously catch fire and burn down like the old days

So it will probably be around for a while

CP200
CP200 on April 13, 2021 at 8:47 pm

wrecking ball for this cinema coming soon to a youtube-cinema small screen.

Flix70
Flix70 on April 13, 2021 at 11:42 am

Still shocked at the news of the closure this morning. I live in Orange County & made my first visit to the Dome in 1996 for Apocalypse Now & later From Dusk Til Dawn. Came back in ‘98 for Close Encounters of the Third Kind & Gladiator in 2000. Over the next 15 years my wife & I would make the drive up for Van Helsing, Spider-man 3, Intolerable Cruelty, The Godfather, Shine a Light, Titanic 3D and the Martian.

I always felt like a kid heading there, knowing I was in for a true cinematic treat with every visit.

You have to believe someone like Netflix, Amazon or other deep-pocketed industry savior will step in to at least preserve the Dome. It is a designated LA Historic-Cultural Monument and can’t be demolished or altered without going before the Cultural Heritage Commission, who has the right to delay any demolition for up to one year.

But frankly I don’t see another exhibition chain stepping in to rescue Arclight, not in this volatile climate. They’re all holding on by the skin of their teeth, can’t see any of them determining the acquisition of new properties to be economically feasible. Anything’s possible, though. We shall see.

CP200
CP200 on April 13, 2021 at 7:14 am

I don#t see need to travel to Pictureville that is longer distance that Empire Leicester Square, that had a THX baffle wall. Does Pictureville have one? I don’t think so. Does it have legit THX I don’t think so. I may as well stay at home with legit unofficial commencal cinema THX and I can go to a THX cinema at anytime in the day or week as I feel fit and is only few meters travel walking distance.

cinema has allowed itself to be dragged down to home cinema grade and now it is same tech in a home cinema as it is at a video-cinema cos it ain’t no longer cinema. Anyway I rather watch a David Attenborough, nature documentary without the ear defaning dolby atmos that sounds lousy in cinema as it does in the home. atmos is so fake. We most all, know how it works and hasn’t improved movies one single bit other than deafening loud and so unnatural.

Let video-cinema fade away I won’t miss a single pixel of it.

delta
delta on April 13, 2021 at 4:14 am

All the more reason for the Pictureville Cinerama installation to remain in operation at the National Media Museum in Bradford England.

CP200
CP200 on April 12, 2021 at 11:24 pm

so when is this cinema gonna be demolished into rubble to make way for new homes for the homeless as cinema is non-essential.

rivest266
rivest266 on April 12, 2021 at 11:13 pm

Closed per LA Times.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-04-12/pacific-and-arclight-theaters-will-not-reopen-following-the-pandemic-company-says

In a stunning blow to moviegoers in Southern California, the owner of Pacific Theatres and ArcLight Cinemas said Monday the popular cinema locations will not reopen as Hollywood struggles to recover from the pandemic.

Someone will grab it.

Giles
Giles on April 12, 2021 at 10:06 pm

Zootopialover98 - in my opinion, AMC or Regal are the last two chains I would want to come and step in, give me Cinemark or Showplace ICON, their theater complexes are more state of the art when it comes to top of the line Barco projectors, 7.1 audio and Dolby Atmos systems.

MrWolf98
MrWolf98 on April 12, 2021 at 9:31 pm

That is so sad I sure hope AMC, Regal, or Cinemark will at least take over those theaters I hope.

ridethectrain
ridethectrain on April 12, 2021 at 9:26 pm

PLEASE UPDATE, CLOSED UNFORTUNATELY, STORY FROM THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER The two brands operated more than 300 screens in California, including the coveted Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. In a blow for California moviegoers — and those in Los Angeles in particular — the ArcLight Cinemas and Pacific Theatres are closing all of their locations for good after seeing their business decimated by the pandemic.

ArcLight’s stable includes the prized Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. The Dome, built in 1963, is the crown jewel of the small theater complex constructed in more recent years.

ArcLight Hollywood is a bastion for both first-run movies and independent titles and, at one time, was one of the first L.A. cinemas to offer high-end food. It has also been a favorite site place to stage premieres of indie titles, and is beloved by many cinephiles.

ArcLight’s locations in Hollywood and elsewhere, including Sherman Oaks, are operated by Pacific Theatres. The Pacific side of the aisle includes such popular locations as the Grove in West Hollywood.

“This was not the outcome anyone wanted, but despite a huge effort that exhausted all potential options, the company does not have a viable way forward,” said a statement issued by Pacific Theatres, which is owned by the Decurion Corporation.

No ArcLight or Pacific location has reopened since the pandemic began. On Monday afternoon, word quickly spread across Hollywood that they will remain dark for good.

It wasn’t immediately clear who the pool of potential buyers might include for the more high-profile locations, should they be up for sale, such as the ArcLight Hollywood complex.

Last year, Netflix closed a deal to operate the Egyptian, another landmark Hollywood theater that’s not far from the Cinerama Dome. Among the mega chains, Cinemark only has two L.A. locations (one in Baldwin Hills and the other in Playa Vista).

“To all the Pacific and ArcLight employees who have devoted their professional lives to making our theaters the very best places in the world to see movies: we are grateful for your service and your dedication to our customers,” the statement continued. “It has been an honor and a pleasure to serve you.”

The National Association of Theatre Owners has warned all along that smaller and regional independent chains, such as Pacific and ArcLight, might never recover from the COVID-19 crisis.

“To our guests and members of the film industry who have made going to the movies such a magical experience over the years: our deepest thanks,” read the statement issued by Pacific Theaters. “It has been an honor and a pleasure to serve you.”

vindanpar
vindanpar on April 12, 2021 at 9:12 pm

The Cinerama Dome is closed for good? This is horrible. I was never in it and I’ll most probably never go to California again but I wanted it to always be there.

DavidZornig
DavidZornig on April 12, 2021 at 8:45 pm

That is sad news. Here is the Hollywood Reporter article.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/arclight-cinemas-and-pacific-theatres-to-close?fbclid=IwAR3iIwHlJva9wA7j1K_hWdTFF5fI1SVy0-2Os5e6NNb6omk2liKZn4LQh3Q

Giles
Giles on April 12, 2021 at 8:18 pm

huge, unfortunate news for Arclight/Pacific theatres from Deadline:

EXCLUSIVE: Refresh for more details The last thing we needed to hear as the box office and exhibition were rebounding from the pandemic was a piece of bad news, but word spread like wild fire in distribution and exhibition circles that the Arclight Cinemas and Pacific Theatres won’t be reopening. The chain has issued a statement below.

Last week, I was hearing that the chain was shooting for a Memorial Day weekend reopening with A Quiet Place Part II and Cruella, now those hopes look dashed, and at an unfortunate time because it’s expected that Los Angeles County could get the opportunity to operate at 100% capacity in movie theaters well before California Governor Newsom’s June 15 wide-open order. Here’s the chain’s statement:

‘After shutting our doors more than a year ago, today we must share the difficult and sad news that Pacific will not be reopening its ArcLight Cinemas and Pacific Theatres locations.
This was not the outcome anyone wanted, but despite a huge effort that exhausted all potential options, the company does not have a viable way forward.
To all the Pacific and ArcLight employees who have devoted their professional lives to making our theaters the very best places in the world to see movies: we are grateful for your service and your dedication to our customers.

To our guests and members of the film industry who have made going to the movies such a magical experience over the years: our deepest thanks. It has been an honor and a pleasure to serve you.'

https://deadline.com/2021/04/arclight-cinemas-and-pacific-theatres-wont-be-reopening-1234732936/

RogerA
RogerA on December 20, 2020 at 12:17 pm

To bigjoe

This is the reason why versions of these movies are lost. People doing restoration work are not familiar with practices and standards of years past.

Back in the 1970’s I saw an original roadshow print of My Fair Lady in New York City in one of those old barns of a theater with a huge screen. The projectionist was very friendly he let me hang out in the projection room and I spent quite a bit of time talking to him. There were a lot of film cans as he had multiple prints and different versions. He said “The exchange sent me all the 70mm prints they had and just to pick out the best ones to run.” The print he chose of MY Fair Lady was probably the backup print that had never been run. He had a version of South Pacific with Spanish sub titles burned in. I commented on how big the theater screen was and he replied “You should have seen it before they reduced the size. It used to be bigger.” The theater had Century JJ projectors with 13.6 carbon arc and he was running the arc at 200 amps. (yes I know the rated current was 160 ) The picture was clear and bright I could count the threads per inch in Rex Harrison’s tweed coat. I was impressed.

The theater was at the time called The Strand and was the New York City Cinerama theater. It was the Broadway Theater where they ran the roadshow of It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World.

For 50 years I have worked on the equipment in these theaters. You pick up a thing or two in fifty years.

RogerA
RogerA on December 19, 2020 at 9:08 pm

I am waiting for you to prove what I am writing to be wrong.

Why bother to post here just to have some studio type to tell me I am wrong when I have seen release prints off the original negative.

RogerA
RogerA on December 19, 2020 at 8:14 pm

Well waiting for and answer where is that 30FPS Todd-AO negative THAT IS IN PERFECT CONDITION?

RogerA
RogerA on December 19, 2020 at 5:41 pm

Prints were, and are, made from the original negative they are called show prints. There was also an answer print that is made off the negative.

Fox has a print of Sound of Music made off the original negative on Kodak Vision 3 stock and it looks incredible.

The original camera negative for Days of Heaven was used to make liquid gate blow up prints 35mm to 70mm

That camera internegative is probably camera negative not internegative.

RogerA
RogerA on December 19, 2020 at 1:38 pm

Citizen Kane was filmed on nitrate stock very flammable and is prone to spontaneous combustion unless kept cold or frozen. So if any of the films in the vault went up it consumed all that was in that small room. There are still vaults filled with nitrate.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on December 19, 2020 at 12:39 pm

Thanks, Roger. All very interesting. It’s ironic how the negative for Citizen Kane burned that way, considering what happens to Rosebud at the end.

RogerA
RogerA on December 19, 2020 at 11:44 am

The studios are well know for destroying or losing original source material such as camera negative and original sound. Now and then someone saves footage from being destroyed but many times after a long run the general release version is the only thing left. The roadshow prints are either damaged, lost or destroyed. Fotokem has made new prints from the original negative of many 70mm films. Some of those films are complete. In some cases the negatives were in fair condition in other cases not. If a lot of copies were made off the original negative then that negative might be in rough shape or just unusable. Often times the camera negative survives but the sound doesn’t.

The camera negative for the 30FPS version of Around the World in Eighty Days is no longer available but the 24FPS negative survived. So the roadshow version of that movie is not available. The 30FPS negative of Around the World in Eighty Days was just worn out and damaged after making release prints off the original negative. In many cases the negative gets worn out from making multiple release prints. Usually there is an internegative or interpositive leaving a copy that can be used to make a print. For most movies shot on film there were prints made directly from the original negative and these are much better quality than a print made off an internegative.

Most Roadshow prints were made directly from the original camera negative and in the case of a popular movie that required multiple prints that negative was badly worn by the end of the roadshow run. If a reel of a print was damaged during the run a replacement had to be struck. New roadshow prints had to be struck to replace worn out prints. Again original negatives took a beating.

Until they closed it the film exchange in Boston had a full roadshow print of Around the World but it was badly faded. My guess is it was cut up with a bandsaw and sent to the recycler.

Collectors have some film that is thought to be lost.

It was common practice to recycle old film negative that was no longer needed and prints that were old. So as a result only a small percentage of original source material survives. Fox destroyed millions of feet of nitrate not wanting to store it. Universal lost original negative in several fires over the years. Many times in the past a film vault loaded with nitrate would catch fire and burn and this was common at many studios. The original negative for Citizen Kane burned but there were high quality copies in good condition.

bigjoe59
bigjoe59 on December 18, 2020 at 3:22 pm

Hello-

to Roger A.- it was a common practice to trim a film from its original roadshow cut for when its played neighborhood theaters. how much was trimmed depended on how long the film was to begin with. which leads me to my question- why do you think some studios/distributors were more adept at keeping the trims from roadshow prints than other studios? for instance the 1st time I saw Cleopatra was at my neighborhood theater in NYC. I assumed the print I saw was the film but it was the 3hr. 15min. print. fortunately Dorothy Spencer kept the trims from the original 4hr. cut which premiered in NYC June of 1963. but that’s not the case with a number of roadshow films whose blu-ray discs are the general release print not the original roadshow cut.

RogerA
RogerA on December 17, 2020 at 8:53 pm

to bigjoe59; screen size, and flat or curved is mostly personal preference as is picture luminance. There are standards of course but that doesn’t mean one pays close attention to the standard. As for picture size it is how far away you are from the screen. An 80" screen isn’t too overwhelming if your twelve to twenty feet away. Back when I had a film screening room in my basement the screen was a lot bigger than 80" and brighter that 18FL. I’m not sure what would cause eye fatigue or vision problems. Dolby Vision is really bright a lot more light than has ever been used before. But as long as you can get at least 1.5 times as far from the screen as it is wide you should be fine.

Again it is personal taste I can sit in the front row at the Dome for HTWWW now that is a little overwhelming.

The brightness on a video monitor or a TV can be adjusted If you get a video projector and a good sound system you can adjust the picture size as well as the brightness. 7.1 and 5.1 sound systems are common. I have a 7.1 sound system sitting in storage that I am wondering what to do with. I have a computer with a 7.1 sound card. That same computer has multiple video outputs so I can have a combination of monitors and projectors.

RogerA
RogerA on December 17, 2020 at 8:53 pm

to bigjoe59; screen size, and flat or curved is mostly personal preference as is picture luminance. There are standards of course but that doesn’t mean one pays close attention to the standard. As for picture size it is how far away you are from the screen. An 80" screen isn’t too overwhelming if your twelve to twenty feet away. Back when I had a film screening room in my basement the screen was a lot bigger than 80" and brighter that 18FL. I’m not sure what would cause eye fatigue or vision problems. Dolby Vision is really bright a lot more light than has ever been used before. But as long as you can get at least 1.5 times as far from the screen as it is wide you should be fine.

Again it is personal taste I can sit in the front row at the Dome for HTWWW now that is a little overwhelming.

The brightness on a video monitor or a TV can be adjusted If you get a video projector and a good sound system you can adjust the picture size as well as the brightness. 7.1 and 5.1 sound systems are common. I have a 7.1 sound system sitting in storage that I am wondering what to do with. I have a computer with a 7.1 sound card. That same computer has multiple video outputs so I can have a combination of monitors and projectors.