What you just said Movie534, is the reason why this digital stuff will eventually fall flat on it’s face. Think about it, on 2/17/09, television will be all digital. With that, why would some sane person wanna spend $12-13 dollars on a movie presented in a projection system that you get at home, for free? With high ticket prices, moviegoers will stay & wait for blu-ray for most films (save for films like Iron Man and TDK).
Why do I get the feeling that all this spending on digital will come back to haunt us in a few years? Granted, digital has it’s place, but it will never compare to the quality derived from 70MM, which uses a DTS timecode soundtrack today.
Oh and yeah, ticket prices will rise because of this.
JRS40, here’s a little fun game I’d like to share. I would like to reopen RO, but if I reopened it, then here’s the complete listing of movies that would have played in this auditorium from it’s 3/24/06 reopening to now. 1-6 and 7-8 would have reopened that day too. The ad would have proclaimed, “the best is back!”
3/24/06 – INSIDE MAN
4/14/06 – SCARY MOVIE 4
5/5/06 – MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 3
5/19/06 – THE DA VINCI CODE
6/9/06 – CARS
6/28/06 – SUPERMAN RETURNS
7/14/06 – PIRATES 2: DEAD MAN’S CHEST (moveover from 1-6)
8/18/06 – SNAKES ON A PLANE
8/25/06 – IDLEWILD
9/1/06 – THE ILLUSIONIST
10/6/06 – THE DEPARTED
11/10/06 – BORAT (moveover from #10)
11/17/06 – CASINO ROYALE
12/20/06 – ROCKY BALBOA
1/12/06 – STOMP THE YARD (actually a good movie)
1/26/07 – SMOKIN' ACES
2/9/07 – PAN’S LABYRINTH
2/16/07 – BREACH
3/2/07 – ZODIAC
3/9/07 – 300
4/6/07 – GRINDHOUSE
4/20/07 – DISTURBIA
5/4/07 – SPIDER MAN 3
5/25/07 – PIRATES 3: AT WORLD’S END
6/8/07 – OCEAN’S 13
6/27/07 – LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD
7/11/07 – HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX
8/3/07 – THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM
8/17/07 – SUPERBAD
9/7/07 – 3:10 TO YUMA
9/28/07 – THE KINGDOM
10/12/07 – MICHAEL CLAYTON
11/2/07 – AMERICAN GANGSTER
11/30/07 – NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
12/14/07 – I AM LEGEND
1/11/08 – THERE WILL BE BLOOD
1/18/08 – CLOVERFIELD
2/1/08 – JUNO
2/22/08 – VANTAGE POINT
3/21-23/08 – 70MM FILM FESTIVAL
3/28/08 – 21
4/18/08 – THE FORBIDDEN KINGDOM
5/2/08 – IRON MAN
5/22/08 – INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL
7/2/08 – HANCOCK
7/18/08 – THE DARK KNIGHT
9/12/08 – RIGHTEOUS KILL
9/26/08 – EAGLE EYE
Here’s hoping I will reopen this place. Someone tried to turn it into a comedy club last fall, but that fell through. Now mall management doesn’t know what to do with it. Should I ever reopen it, I will add 11-12 alongside #10 to become RO 9-12. In the ads for 9-12, the first movie listed will be the one playing in the giant curved screen.
Thanks for the cities. What I want to do now is start my operations here in the Chicago area, and expand from there. By 2013, I want to be in the cites mentioned, plus Westwood LA, Florida, etc… I want to bring showmanship back to the movies.
When I own theaters (God willing, my first will be next year), I will have 35/70MM projectors, backup DLP, and projectionists. I also want to start a 70MM film festival here in Chicago, and spread the word from there. I’m also in the process of contacting filmmakers to shoot their upcoming projects in 65MM for a 70MM DTS release in certain cities. We cannot let digital take over every damn thing.
Ken, is there any space for a new theater in the Seattle (Tacoma?) suburbs?
And it costs about $35/40,000 or less to install 35/70MM projectors which could be adapted for 3D, yet Hollywood ignores this.
Is it just me or are they trying to erase the past, and let today’s teens that there’s such thing as giant 70MM projection (in theaters outside of IMAX), and nothing is better than digital?
Here’s a list of films shown in #7 starting with it’s opening day in 1983. *indicates new release
10/21/83 – THE DEAD ZONE
11/23/83 – TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
12/9/83 – CHRISTINE
1/20/84 – FIRE & ICE
4/13/84 – FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE FINAL CHAPTER
5/11/84 – MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON
5/23/84 – ROMANCING THE STONE
6/1/84 – ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA
6/8/84 – INDIANA JONES & THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
9/21/84 – TIGHTROPE
11/16/84 – NIGHT OF THE COMET
12/5/84 – NIGHT PATROL
12/14/84 – CITY HEAT
1/18/85 – THAT’S DANCING
8/16/85 – RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD
10/11/85 – THE PROTECTOR
11/22/85 – ONE MAGIC CHRISTMAS
1/17/86 – IRON EAGLE
2/21/86 – F/X
4/18/86 – WISE GUYS
10/3/86 – TOUGH GUYS
1/16/87 – WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE
3/6/87 – BLACK WIDOW
3/13/87 – PLATOON
5/1/87 – MALONE
5/8/87 – EXTREME PREJUDICE
5/20/87 – THE GATE
6/12/87 – THE BELIEVERS
10/9/87 – BABY BOOM
10/23/87 – NO MAN’S LAND
10/30/87 – SUSPECT
11/6/87 – LESS THAN ZERO
¾/88 – ACTION JACKSON
3/11/88 – SHOOT TO KILL
5/6/88 – ABOVE THE LAW
7/15/88 – RED HEAT
7/20/88 – THE DEAD POOL
8/26/88 – DIE HARD
11/18/88 – SPLIT DECISIONS plus U2: RATTLE AND HUM
12/2/88 – THE ACCUSED
3/3/89 – KINJITE
5//19/89 – LEAN ON ME
9/8/89 – KICKBOXER
5/18/90 – CADILLAC MAN
5/1/92 – K2
9/25/92 – THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS
8/6/93 – POETIC JUSTICE
8/4/95 – BABE
12/15/95 – SABRINA*
On 8/17/85, the Carnegie hosted an 8pm studio preview of Billy Friedkin’s To Live and Die in LA. General release didn’t start until 11/1/85. How cool is that?
3/19/82 – PORKY'S
5/14/82 – CONAN THE BARBARIAN
1/20/84 – NEVER CRY WOLF
3/2/84 – AGAINST ALL ODDS
4/6/84 – POLICE ACADEMY
4/13/84 – ROMANCING THE STONE
8/16/85 – YEAR OF THE DRAGON
6/3/87 – THE UNTOUCHABLES
11/6/87 – CRY FREEDOM
8/26/88 – THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
9/22/89 – BLACK RAIN
9/28/90 – PACIFIC HEIGHTS
11/2/90 – GRAFFITI BRIDGE
9/17/93 – STRIKING DISTANCE
I also have a list of films shown at 7-8. Will post soon.
Neon lights on a doorframe? Ha! That sounds like a nightclub.
I wonder if that place in Elmhurst would have interior pictures? Every time I look at an old Essaness/Cineplex Odeon ad, I get curious about this place.
M&R re-opened Hyde Park on 5/24/85. The Dearborn opened in December 85. I believe one of the first films to play here during that time was “Enemy Mine”.
The closing time of the year is here. Will AMC close the Norridge? Piper’s Alley? Chicago Ridge? shudders at that thought Or will Pillage Theatres close the Lincoln Village? North Riverside? Will they cease to exist altogether? As with August/September of ‘03, '04, '05, and '06, we will find out soon.
I unfortunately, won’t be able to make the trek out to Norridge. If anybody has the chance to get here one last time, please do so, and take lots of photos.
As you may know, this is the closing time of the year. Will Piper’s be on it’s way out? Lincoln Village? Norridge? Five years ago this month, Loews Cineplex closed the McClurg Court and Rice Lake Square. Come to think of it, I believe Oakbrook 5-7 went a few weeks after. I hope Piper’s Alley won’t close. It is still pretty young (17 years old). If money were to be poured into a remodeling, this place could still do great business with art films & such. But with AMC running it, I don’t know. With four screens, it doesn’t fit their business model.
My parents took everybody to see this on my youngest bro’s sixth b-day a week later at River Oaks 1 (later #9) in Calumet City, Il. My Dad would go on to see this another couple of times in it’s theatrical run.
Me, I was born two years later, but I saw it when I was four on my older brother’s VHS recording off HBO. I love it to this day. Without “Die Hard”, there would be no “Under Seige”, “Passenger 57”, “Sudden Death”, or the Corey Haim b classic, “Demolition High”.
To Chicagoians who might see this thread, here’s the expanded release list for Wednesday July 20th, 1988
Arlington Heights: (Cineplex Odeon) Town & Country Mall
Calumet City: (Cineplex Odeon) River Oaks #1
Chicago: (M&R) Dearborn Cinema
Chicago: (Cineplex Odeon) Chestnut Station
Chicago: (M&R) Webster Place
Chicago: (Cineplex Odeon) Nortown
Chicago: (General Cinema) Ford City
Chicago Ridge/Oak Lawn: (Cineplex Odeon) Commons of Chicago Ridge
Forest Park: (Cineplex Odeon) Forest Park Mall
Hillside: (M&R) Hillside Square
Niles: (Cineplex Odeon) Golf Mill
Northbrook: (Cineplex Odeon) Edens
Of Note, this movie along with “Midnight Run” were the first movies to play at the then all-new Webster Place Theater. Happy 20th anniversary, and “yippee ki yay”!
What you just said Movie534, is the reason why this digital stuff will eventually fall flat on it’s face. Think about it, on 2/17/09, television will be all digital. With that, why would some sane person wanna spend $12-13 dollars on a movie presented in a projection system that you get at home, for free? With high ticket prices, moviegoers will stay & wait for blu-ray for most films (save for films like Iron Man and TDK).
Oh snap, this is gonna be a great theater.
I hope they’ll add 70MM projection for revivals, and the upcoming movie Samsara, which was shot in 65MM.
Why do I get the feeling that all this spending on digital will come back to haunt us in a few years? Granted, digital has it’s place, but it will never compare to the quality derived from 70MM, which uses a DTS timecode soundtrack today.
Oh and yeah, ticket prices will rise because of this.
The avrage digital screen looks like this
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http://www.in70mm.com/news/2007/as_good/index.htm
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JRS40, here’s a little fun game I’d like to share. I would like to reopen RO, but if I reopened it, then here’s the complete listing of movies that would have played in this auditorium from it’s 3/24/06 reopening to now. 1-6 and 7-8 would have reopened that day too. The ad would have proclaimed, “the best is back!”
3/24/06 – INSIDE MAN
4/14/06 – SCARY MOVIE 4
5/5/06 – MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 3
5/19/06 – THE DA VINCI CODE
6/9/06 – CARS
6/28/06 – SUPERMAN RETURNS
7/14/06 – PIRATES 2: DEAD MAN’S CHEST (moveover from 1-6)
8/18/06 – SNAKES ON A PLANE
8/25/06 – IDLEWILD
9/1/06 – THE ILLUSIONIST
10/6/06 – THE DEPARTED
11/10/06 – BORAT (moveover from #10)
11/17/06 – CASINO ROYALE
12/20/06 – ROCKY BALBOA
1/12/06 – STOMP THE YARD (actually a good movie)
1/26/07 – SMOKIN' ACES
2/9/07 – PAN’S LABYRINTH
2/16/07 – BREACH
3/2/07 – ZODIAC
3/9/07 – 300
4/6/07 – GRINDHOUSE
4/20/07 – DISTURBIA
5/4/07 – SPIDER MAN 3
5/25/07 – PIRATES 3: AT WORLD’S END
6/8/07 – OCEAN’S 13
6/27/07 – LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD
7/11/07 – HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX
8/3/07 – THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM
8/17/07 – SUPERBAD
9/7/07 – 3:10 TO YUMA
9/28/07 – THE KINGDOM
10/12/07 – MICHAEL CLAYTON
11/2/07 – AMERICAN GANGSTER
11/30/07 – NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
12/14/07 – I AM LEGEND
1/11/08 – THERE WILL BE BLOOD
1/18/08 – CLOVERFIELD
2/1/08 – JUNO
2/22/08 – VANTAGE POINT
3/21-23/08 – 70MM FILM FESTIVAL
3/28/08 – 21
4/18/08 – THE FORBIDDEN KINGDOM
5/2/08 – IRON MAN
5/22/08 – INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL
7/2/08 – HANCOCK
7/18/08 – THE DARK KNIGHT
9/12/08 – RIGHTEOUS KILL
9/26/08 – EAGLE EYE
Here’s hoping I will reopen this place. Someone tried to turn it into a comedy club last fall, but that fell through. Now mall management doesn’t know what to do with it. Should I ever reopen it, I will add 11-12 alongside #10 to become RO 9-12. In the ads for 9-12, the first movie listed will be the one playing in the giant curved screen.
Thanks for the cities. What I want to do now is start my operations here in the Chicago area, and expand from there. By 2013, I want to be in the cites mentioned, plus Westwood LA, Florida, etc… I want to bring showmanship back to the movies.
When I own theaters (God willing, my first will be next year), I will have 35/70MM projectors, backup DLP, and projectionists. I also want to start a 70MM film festival here in Chicago, and spread the word from there. I’m also in the process of contacting filmmakers to shoot their upcoming projects in 65MM for a 70MM DTS release in certain cities. We cannot let digital take over every damn thing.
Ken, is there any space for a new theater in the Seattle (Tacoma?) suburbs?
And it costs about $35/40,000 or less to install 35/70MM projectors which could be adapted for 3D, yet Hollywood ignores this.
Is it just me or are they trying to erase the past, and let today’s teens that there’s such thing as giant 70MM projection (in theaters outside of IMAX), and nothing is better than digital?
I wish there were pictures of this place floating around.
And did anybody hear that the mall will be redone in a few years? Perhaps a new theater would fit in too.
Do you call first or just walk up & pay for the tour?
I might try & get down there next week.
Here’s a list of films shown in #7 starting with it’s opening day in 1983. *indicates new release
10/21/83 – THE DEAD ZONE
11/23/83 – TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
12/9/83 – CHRISTINE
1/20/84 – FIRE & ICE
4/13/84 – FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE FINAL CHAPTER
5/11/84 – MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON
5/23/84 – ROMANCING THE STONE
6/1/84 – ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA
6/8/84 – INDIANA JONES & THE TEMPLE OF DOOM
9/21/84 – TIGHTROPE
11/16/84 – NIGHT OF THE COMET
12/5/84 – NIGHT PATROL
12/14/84 – CITY HEAT
1/18/85 – THAT’S DANCING
8/16/85 – RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD
10/11/85 – THE PROTECTOR
11/22/85 – ONE MAGIC CHRISTMAS
1/17/86 – IRON EAGLE
2/21/86 – F/X
4/18/86 – WISE GUYS
10/3/86 – TOUGH GUYS
1/16/87 – WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE
3/6/87 – BLACK WIDOW
3/13/87 – PLATOON
5/1/87 – MALONE
5/8/87 – EXTREME PREJUDICE
5/20/87 – THE GATE
6/12/87 – THE BELIEVERS
10/9/87 – BABY BOOM
10/23/87 – NO MAN’S LAND
10/30/87 – SUSPECT
11/6/87 – LESS THAN ZERO
¾/88 – ACTION JACKSON
3/11/88 – SHOOT TO KILL
5/6/88 – ABOVE THE LAW
7/15/88 – RED HEAT
7/20/88 – THE DEAD POOL
8/26/88 – DIE HARD
11/18/88 – SPLIT DECISIONS plus U2: RATTLE AND HUM
12/2/88 – THE ACCUSED
3/3/89 – KINJITE
5//19/89 – LEAN ON ME
9/8/89 – KICKBOXER
5/18/90 – CADILLAC MAN
5/1/92 – K2
9/25/92 – THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS
8/6/93 – POETIC JUSTICE
8/4/95 – BABE
12/15/95 – SABRINA*
Water Tower lower level aka 5-7 opened on 4/13/84. Opening attractions were “Swing Shift”, “Iceman”, and “Terms of Endearment”.
On 8/17/85, the Carnegie hosted an 8pm studio preview of Billy Friedkin’s To Live and Die in LA. General release didn’t start until 11/1/85. How cool is that?
JRS40, more from RO #1
3/19/82 – PORKY'S
5/14/82 – CONAN THE BARBARIAN
1/20/84 – NEVER CRY WOLF
3/2/84 – AGAINST ALL ODDS
4/6/84 – POLICE ACADEMY
4/13/84 – ROMANCING THE STONE
8/16/85 – YEAR OF THE DRAGON
6/3/87 – THE UNTOUCHABLES
11/6/87 – CRY FREEDOM
8/26/88 – THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
9/22/89 – BLACK RAIN
9/28/90 – PACIFIC HEIGHTS
11/2/90 – GRAFFITI BRIDGE
9/17/93 – STRIKING DISTANCE
I also have a list of films shown at 7-8. Will post soon.
Neon lights on a doorframe? Ha! That sounds like a nightclub.
I wonder if that place in Elmhurst would have interior pictures? Every time I look at an old Essaness/Cineplex Odeon ad, I get curious about this place.
M&R re-opened Hyde Park on 5/24/85. The Dearborn opened in December 85. I believe one of the first films to play here during that time was “Enemy Mine”.
AMC should invest in this too. Provided that they have large screens with side masking
http://www.in70mm.com/workshop/index.htm
Is this Clifton Commons?
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The closing time of the year is here. Will AMC close the Norridge? Piper’s Alley? Chicago Ridge? shudders at that thought Or will Pillage Theatres close the Lincoln Village? North Riverside? Will they cease to exist altogether? As with August/September of ‘03, '04, '05, and '06, we will find out soon.
I unfortunately, won’t be able to make the trek out to Norridge. If anybody has the chance to get here one last time, please do so, and take lots of photos.
As you may know, this is the closing time of the year. Will Piper’s be on it’s way out? Lincoln Village? Norridge? Five years ago this month, Loews Cineplex closed the McClurg Court and Rice Lake Square. Come to think of it, I believe Oakbrook 5-7 went a few weeks after. I hope Piper’s Alley won’t close. It is still pretty young (17 years old). If money were to be poured into a remodeling, this place could still do great business with art films & such. But with AMC running it, I don’t know. With four screens, it doesn’t fit their business model.
Is the original theater still standing? I haven’t been that way in a while.
If it’s still there, perhaps someone (like me) could remodel it & turn it into an art-house or 2nd run cinema.
Hey,
I will be in the area on Thursday, so I will probably go & see a movie here. Is it still a decent place?
Does anyone know if the theater is still sitting there?
My parents took everybody to see this on my youngest bro’s sixth b-day a week later at River Oaks 1 (later #9) in Calumet City, Il. My Dad would go on to see this another couple of times in it’s theatrical run.
Me, I was born two years later, but I saw it when I was four on my older brother’s VHS recording off HBO. I love it to this day. Without “Die Hard”, there would be no “Under Seige”, “Passenger 57”, “Sudden Death”, or the Corey Haim b classic, “Demolition High”.
To Chicagoians who might see this thread, here’s the expanded release list for Wednesday July 20th, 1988
Arlington Heights: (Cineplex Odeon) Town & Country Mall
Calumet City: (Cineplex Odeon) River Oaks #1
Chicago: (M&R) Dearborn Cinema
Chicago: (Cineplex Odeon) Chestnut Station
Chicago: (M&R) Webster Place
Chicago: (Cineplex Odeon) Nortown
Chicago: (General Cinema) Ford City
Chicago Ridge/Oak Lawn: (Cineplex Odeon) Commons of Chicago Ridge
Forest Park: (Cineplex Odeon) Forest Park Mall
Hillside: (M&R) Hillside Square
Niles: (Cineplex Odeon) Golf Mill
Northbrook: (Cineplex Odeon) Edens
Of Note, this movie along with “Midnight Run” were the first movies to play at the then all-new Webster Place Theater. Happy 20th anniversary, and “yippee ki yay”!