Radio City Music Hall

1260 6th Avenue,
New York, NY 10020

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Simon L. Saltzman
Simon L. Saltzman on July 31, 2006 at 7:34 pm

The reserved seat policy was as follows: As a rule matinees tickets were good from house opening to 3 PM. Evening tickets were good anytime between 7 PM and the start of the last overture. (usually around 9:15 PM). On holidays a different reserved seat plan went into effect. Tickets for morning shows were good from house opening, usually around 8 AM, to about 10 AM. You could not stay for a second show in those seats but could go up to the second mezzanine if you chose to. You had to vacate your seats for the matinee audience whose tickets read “good between 1 PM to 3 PM.” These times are approximate and based on the running time of the feature. Empty seats in the first mezzanine would also be sold as non-reserved but at the higher admission price between 3 PM and 4 PM to keep the seats filled.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on July 31, 2006 at 5:09 pm

But even the day after I wonder if there were many people in theaters. How long did it take for business to rebound?

Does anybody know about the extra reserved seats which is in the ad?
Does this mean that Thanksgiving weekend still did so well in ‘63 that the second mezz was turned into reserved seating?

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on July 31, 2006 at 5:04 pm

According to a lot of the ads I found in those papers, big department stores and retailers (Macy’s, Sterns, Brentano’s, Horn and Hardart, Best & Company, etc) were closed that day and it appears that many movie theaters were either closed or did not open their doors until 6pm that evening.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on July 31, 2006 at 4:03 pm

Let’s get back to RCMH history.

This stock market farce starring James Garner and Lee Remick (in Hudson/Day mode) was into its 2nd week at the Hall when JFK was assassinated:
NY Daily News 11/25/63

There’s a small notice in the corner of the ad advising of the theater’s closing on Monday (the day that ad was published, actually) in memory of JFK. The other newspapers I have from this time (from my late grandfather’s collection) feature similar notices from various theaters and chains (not to mention department stores and big retailers). I was about 14 months from coming into this world, so I can only assume that 11/25/63 had been declared a national day of mourning by LBJ.

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irajoel on July 23, 2006 at 5:01 pm

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irajoel on July 23, 2006 at 5:01 pm

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irajoel on July 23, 2006 at 5:01 pm

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Ed Solero
Ed Solero on July 10, 2006 at 5:03 pm

Vincent… that much heralded 1976 production was produced by Sherwin Goldman and the Houston Grand Opera, who remounted the piece for the great stage at Radio City in 1983. Here’s a review that appeared in the NY Times for the Radio City version:

Frank Rich review

Rich thought the integrity of the Tony-winning production was preserved but, spectacular as it was, he made the very same point as you regarding the appropriateness of a more intimate Broadway house for proper staging of this American classic. His review also mentions that a future engagement had been planned for the production at the Met.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on July 5, 2006 at 3:17 pm

I vaguely remember it but the truly great production of Porgy in the second half of the 20th Century was the Houston Grand Opera Company version which played at the Uris and then tranferred to the Mark Hellinger where I saw it with Clamma Dale and Donnie Ray Albert. One of the great musical performances of all time.
This is meant to be seen in a Broadway house. Not at the Music Hall and not at the Met.

BrooklynJim
BrooklynJim on June 27, 2006 at 3:22 pm

Radio City Music hall, a Grand Dame of design, lighting, function and opulence, home to so many G-rated motion pictures, is perhaps the most impressive theater I have – or ever will have – experienced in my lifetime.

In 1962, with neighborhood date in tow, I was literally bowled over by its size and decor. We weren’t in Brooklyn anymore, Toto. Our feet sank into the plush carpet. We saw “That Touch of Mink” and a stage show with the Rockettes, doing their finest imitations of a Busby Berkeley-inspired routine. Two years later, I returned to see “The World of Henry Orient.” But from 1971-73, I passed RCMH daily to and from work in Rockefeller Center. More or less, I took it for granted. 20/20 hindsight. Ouch.

Big thanks to some folks who researched what played and when, and then shared that info back in 2004: Ron 3853, William, Brucec and Bill Huelbig. Your combined work showed me clearly what I’d missed over the years.

Close your eyes and mentally revisit the scene in “Radio Days” when the aunt took the young Woody Allen character to NYC and to a show at RCMH. Conjure up the look of wonder in that kid’s eyes and on his face, and you’ll know, even vicariously, the wonder and magic of this great theater.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on June 15, 2006 at 3:42 pm

The Carole King album is called “Fantasy”. The shape of the old H&H building (on the very same block as the HoJo’s) is still recognizable, but any architectural ornamentation has been shorn away or concealed by signage. It houses a two-story discount store currently.

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on June 15, 2006 at 3:07 pm

The Howard Johnson’s on the northwest corner of 46th and Broadway closed last year and is being replaced by a new structure that will house some sort of mega-retail space. This was the last remaining HoJo’s in NYC (there used to be three in the Times Square area alone including one directly across the street) and the old building also included a former caberet/dance hall space above that operated for years as the Gaiety Burlesk (an all male porn establishment) that has a listing here on CT.

You can find a blurb and recent photo of the building in mid-demolition here. If you scroll down there is also a notice and a couple of photos about the restaurant’s last night in business as well as a link to more details and images from that evening.

Here’s a 2004 shot of the HoJo’s still in operation.

Anyway… maybe I’m not old enough, but I don’t rememeber one by Radio City. There was one adjacent to the Rivoli on 49th and B'way. And I recall one near Grand Central Terminal.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on June 15, 2006 at 3:03 pm

That automat had a very elegant facade which was covered over when they turned it into a Burger King. It is on the cover of a Carole King album and above the facade is a billboard for Sunflower which played at the Hall in the fall of ‘70 which was obviously when the album cover was designed.
Does anybody know the name of the King album?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on June 15, 2006 at 2:52 pm

I recall a Times Square automat being on the same block as the Howard Johnson’s. I may be one or two blocks off here. Back in 1962 my parents took the family there after seeing “That Touch of Mink” at Radio City. The movie featured several scenes that took place in an Automat. The Audrey Meadows character worked there and gave free food to her friend and roommate Doris Day.

KathyLass
KathyLass on June 15, 2006 at 2:14 pm

Bill: I really can’t recall the exact time, although a year seems like a long time ago; sometimes the “imminent end” of something goes on a bit longer than expected. I do recall that it was very popular with the tourists because of the name recognition. By the way, does anyone recall another Automat in the Times Square area as well?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on June 15, 2006 at 1:56 pm

Klass: Didn’t the Howard Johnson’s in Times Square close down about a year ago? When Star Wars Episode III opened in May 2005, I had dinner there before going to the Ziegfeld and the waiter was talking about the imminent end of the restaurant. I believe that was the last one left in New York City.

KathyLass
KathyLass on June 15, 2006 at 1:55 pm

William, it’s odd that both of those Howard Johnson’s are either closed or revamped since they are still listed in the NYC Yellow and White page telephone directories for 2006!

KathyLass
KathyLass on June 15, 2006 at 1:51 pm

You are probably correct, but I think if it did exist back in ‘66, by now it is probably either a fast food place or, worse yet, a Duane Reade Drugstore! They seem to be on every other corner in NYC.

William
William on June 15, 2006 at 1:49 pm

The Howard Johnson’s in Times Square has closed and is being razed very soon. And the Howard Johnson’s Motor Lodge has been revamped into a Hamptons Inn Hotel last year.
Be the way the during it’s last years of operation the Howard Johnson’s in Times Square. Had the worst & slowest service and the food was the worst for the price you paid.

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on June 15, 2006 at 1:27 pm

But I don’t think it was either of these. It was directly by the Hall(I think.)Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me-this was in ‘66.

KathyLass
KathyLass on June 15, 2006 at 1:06 pm

Vincent, there is a Howard Johnson’s in Times Square which has been there for a long time (at least since the ‘70s) and it sort of reminds me of an old-time diner. A bit run down but I always see lots of people in it as I walk to work. (Address is 1551 Broadway at W. 46th Street.) There is also a Howard Johnson’s Motor Lodge down the block from my office at 851 Eighth Avenue at W. 51st Street, so take your pick!

VincentParisi
VincentParisi on June 15, 2006 at 12:36 pm

You want me to get started Vito?
By the way Ed and klass discuss H and H but wasn’t there a Howard Johnson’s right by the Hall. Does anyone know where it was exactly?My mother took my sister and me there after my first visit to the Hall.

Vito
Vito on June 15, 2006 at 11:43 am

Everyone enjoy seeing RCMH on the Tony’s,
Gee the ole girl looked great!
I just wish they had scaled down the set, just a tad, so that the curtain could have gone up and down. The darn thing seems to always be in the up position. Markert and Leonidoff would never approve, right Vincent?

KathyLass
KathyLass on June 15, 2006 at 10:40 am

p.s. to vincent-thanks for placing Molly Brown for me. I was only 13 at the time so my recollection is a bit fuzzy. My mom was a huge Doris Day fan and I also recall seeing several of her movies there.
p.s. to EdSolero – thanks for the update on the H&H building. Since I am within walking distance at work to both Radio City and H&H, I will make it a point to get out more at lunchtime to see for myself. I tried to explain to my 20-something sons how the Automat worked and how much fun it was to go there, but they just looked at me as if I was from another planet!

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on June 14, 2006 at 6:31 pm

That beautiful Art Moderne structure that housed the H&H on W. 57th has been the center of preservationist controversy for a while, now, Klass. In yet another failure on the part of the LPC to conserve our popular architectural heritage, I believe all efforts to have the place designated have been thwarted and the current tenant (Shelly’s Steakhouse, I believe) was being forced to relocate so that the strutcture could be razed to make way for a new residential tower – what else? I think the H&H closed in the ‘70’s and the place became a bookstore. I remember going there once or twice with my Grandfather (a huge patron of the automat). I remember it also as the short-lived Motown Cafe when 57th Street was rife with theme restaurants. Now that the Hard Rock and Planet Hollywood have relocated to Times Square, only Jekyll and Hyde’s remains on 6th Ave off 57th.