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PhilipWW commented about Odeon Guildford on Oct 13, 2017 at 9:10 am

Standard, but good, modern multiplex. All 9 auditoria have Scope screens with movable side masking. The screen sizes are good. The smaller auditoria (6 to 9) are still a good size and have impressive screens.

Built to a sloping floor design before stadium seating became the norm.

Perhaps by today’s standards the foyer and corridors look a little spartan, but that’s a minor comment. In all, I found it a good cinema.

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PhilipWW commented about Odeon Dorchester on Oct 13, 2017 at 8:08 am

Screen 1 is a fine modern auditorium with stadium seating, large Scope screen and movable side masking.

Screens 2 and 3 however are not good. Both are long thin box-like auditoria with just 1.85 screens. Initially when the cinema opened they had top masking for Scope films but with digital projection Scope films are shown “letterboxed” centre screen with no top and bottom masking as is common nowadays.

Although the screens are wall-to-wall, the picture image does not go completely to the side edges. I was told that it was adjusted after opening because a set of wall side lights were obtruding out and obstructing the picture. So now the situation is that Scope films are both “letterboxed” and “pillarboxed” on the screen. This is not good.

Additionally the auditorium lights only dim during the film so the auditorium remains relatively light. I was told that the management are aware of the problem but the electrical wiring is such that it does not allow them the lights to be turned off over the seats whilst leaving it on over the aisles.

All in all I get the impression that this cinema was not designed by anyone who goes to the cinema themselves and really knows what the customer wants. Other modern Odeons are fine so why Odeon let all these design faults through, I cannot explain.

There was quite a battle in Dorchester when this new Odeon was proposed from supporters of the independent Plaza cinema who feared its arrival would impact the viability of the Plaza. I don’t know how the are both fairing now 5 years after opening, both are still there. Odeon Screen 1 is a fine addition to the cinema choices but Screens 2 and 3 leave a lot to be desired.

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PhilipWW commented about BFI Southbank Cinema on Oct 13, 2017 at 7:19 am

The main auditorium, Screen 1, is absolutely wonderful. It is just as you would imagine a perfect cinema should be. It caters for all formats (16mm, 35mm, 80mm and digital) and all screen ratios and, to me, is the perfect environment to watch movies in.

Screen 2 I am not so keen on. One senses that you are looking up to the screen, designed that way probably in part to give good sight lines because the floor only gently slopes down.

Screen 3 I like very much. Stadium seating, good sight lines and an impressively large screen for the size of the auditorium. A bit cramped though on the legroom compared to modern cinema standards.

There is now a fourth screen, not detailed in the cinema details above. Named the Studio it has just 36 seats and is equipped for digital projection only. Sadly the screen is only 1.85 ratio necessitating Scope films being shown “letterboxed” with no masking. This is presumably due to architectural considerations when trying to squeeze an extra auditorium in. It may be a pleasant environment with comfortable seats but, in effect, it becomes just like a large TV. I avoid watching Scope films there; this is not how they are meant to be shown.

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PhilipWW commented about Vue Basingstoke on Oct 10, 2017 at 5:59 am

All 10 screens are 1.85 ‘Flat’ as confirmed to me in a recent E-Mail from Vue. I presume this was a Ster Century standard when the cinema was built in 2002.

Then I presume the screens had top down masking for Scope films but now in the digital age Scope films just appear “letterboxed” on the screen.

What might have been passable in 2002 when Scope films were not as common as they are today, this hardly seems like good cinema standards today. These are certainly not current Vue standards but, I guess, it is difficult to fix without structural changes to the cinema.

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PhilipWW commented about Odeon Basingstoke on Oct 10, 2017 at 5:49 am

All 10 screens are Scope sized as comfirmed to me in an E_Mail from Odeon.

In its earlier days (1990s) as a Warner Village all screens had side masking. I do not know if that remains the case today as it is a current trend to leave the masking permanently out in the Scope position.

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PhilipWW commented about Odeon Luxe Swiss Cottage & IMAX on Oct 10, 2017 at 5:43 am

Screens 4 and 5, albeit relatively small with just 61 seats each, do have impressive Scope screens with side masking. All the seats are designated ‘Club’ and are very spacious with plenty of legroom. Although the flooring is sloped, rather than stepped, the sight lines are good. These are good screens to see movies in.

Although I did not see inside Screens 2 and 3, I was told that thy too have full Scope screens (though I’m not too sure that the person I spoke to fully understood what I was asking).

Upstairs the Screen 1 IMAX theatre is in the old balcony area. The seating here is stepped and the screen impressively large in, I presume, about an 1.90 ratio for digital IMAX presentations. The film I saw was standard Scope which had to be “letterboxed” for the screen; that worked fine as the auditorium was very dark. The picture was still impressively large.

In all I thought this Odeon a good place to watch movies and a good conversion to a multiplex.

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PhilipWW commented about Vue Shepherd's Bush on Oct 10, 2017 at 5:14 am

The comment on Screen 5 states that Scope films are “letterboxed” on a 1.85 screen. As Screen 5 is the second largest auditorium, this rather implies that most screens are 1.85 with perhaps only Screen 9 (the largest) being the exception with a proper Scope screen. If so, this is hardly satisfactory for good cinemagoing today where 80% plus of films are shot in Scope.

The other comment with the case study link on acoustic wall treatments does show include a photo of an auditorium with a full Scope screen, though it is not clear if this is just a generic photo or one specifically from Shepherd’s Bush; if it is from there I presume it must be Screen 9.

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PhilipWW commented about Cineworld Cinema - The O2 Greenwich on Sep 29, 2017 at 1:45 am

When I visited it in February 2016, it still reminded me of its Vue past, namely black matte walls, very dark auditoria when film is showing, wall-to-wall Scope screens and a good sense of proportion between screens and seating; all positive facets of latter Vue builds.

I’m sorry to hear that Cineworld are putting more light into the auditoria. I think generally that they are not as interested as other operators in making watching films a good experience by keeping lights off. I have heard this about other Cineworlds too.

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PhilipWW commented about Picturehouse Central on Sep 26, 2017 at 10:51 am

I have just been into Screens 1 and 2, both excellent to watch movies in. Both had very large and impressive Scope screens, with no side masking if I recollect.

I was told that Screens 4 through 7 also have full Scope screens. Screen 3, for architectural reasons, just has a 1.85 screen which results in Scope films being shown letterboxed with no top/bottom masking.

I thought the cafe downstairs was excellent too. In fact, the whole cinema just has a nice feel to it which makes you want to go back there again.

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PhilipWW commented about Cineworld Cinema - Leicester Square on Sep 26, 2017 at 9:08 am

I would be interested in knowing what the aspect ratios of all the screens are now.

Screen 1 is presumably the 1.90 digital IMAX ratio. When not used for IMAX presentations, standard 1.85 films will be shown very slightly pillarboxed and Scope films letterboxed at 2.39.

Screen 2 : I hope will be 2.39 Scope when refitted as a 4DX screen. I am not familiar with Cineworld 4DX standards.

Screen 3 Impact I presume is 1.85. I have seen one Scope movie there which by necessity was letterboxed to obtain 2.39. An Empire projectionist did tell me at the time that they were thinking of installing top and bottom masking as it would be better, but I guess nothing came of that.

Screens 4 and 5 were 2.39 Scope with side masking. Screen 4, I thought, was very impressive for the size of the auditorium.

Screen 6 was just 1.85 ‘Flat.’ I only went there once and didn’t like it. If I remember correctly they had bottom up masking to achieve the Scope frame. That may have changed now.

Screens 7, 8 and 9 were 2.39 Scope with side masking. Screen 7 I also thought was an impressive size for the auditorium.

Has anything changed or is anything about to change under Cineworld ?

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PhilipWW commented about Vue Finchley Road on Sep 26, 2017 at 8:26 am

The cinema now has 12 screens.

Five of them (Nos 1, 4, 6, 8 and 11) have 2.39 Scope screens with Screen 8 being the largest and branded ‘XTreme’. The remaining 7 have 1.85 screens necessitating Scope films being shown letterboxed top and bottom.

At the time of build in the 1990s it was standard Warner Village policy just to have full Scope screens in the larger auditoria with 1.85 ‘Flat’ screens in the smaller and often narrower auditoria. Then it didn’t matter so much as Scope films were not as common as they are today.

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PhilipWW commented about Screens 2 - 5 Odeon Leicester Square on Sep 26, 2017 at 7:55 am

Although the auditoria are small, are all the screens full 2.39 Scope size … or are some (or all) just 1.85 which necessitates Scope movies being shown letterboxed ?

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PhilipWW commented about Vue West End on Sep 26, 2017 at 7:20 am

After its 1993 refurbishment 8 of the screens were full Scope screens with side masking. Just one (screen 2 I believe) had a 1.85 screen necessitating Scope movies being shown with top down masking; this was due to architectural constraints.

Is this still the situation after the 2017 refurbishment? Is the masking still there. With 80% plus of movies now made in Scope, the current vogue is for cinemas not to have side masking and for 1.85 ‘Flat’ movies to be shown pillarboxed on the Scope screens.