I am familiar with the trouble Chicago has on the West side and that also led to the demise of the Granada. I also know the Marbro and Paradise where also in this area.
However, I really didn’t know where either the Uptown or Chicago theatres are situated.
I don’t know how Chicago’s mass transit system compares to NY. But in NYC there is ALOT going on underground. Installing a parking garage that goes underground and taps into a subway system (if present) could bring alot of people to the Uptown. Furthermore, not only would this benefit the Uptown, but the whole area in general.
I just think that some solution should present itself or people should just work things out better or else another magnificent structure will be lost.
I am surprised that the area DID have a parking structure and it was taken down and not another one built to replace it. Now that is something that doesn’t make sense to me.
Wow! That IS some interesting information you got there. NICE homework trip. Yeah I wish you could have go into the theatre, but when you mentioned that an entire complex is for sale with the theatre, that turned my head. Do you know if apartments are also included in the complex? I need a place to live so, that is a requirement with my theatre purchase. I need a building where I can raise my family.
That is funny that you mention the theatre only needs seats. I just found someone selling a bunch of theatre equipment…and yes, almost new seats. Now I know where the Marietta Theatre is, but I don’t know much about Mt. Joy. I don’t even know what the building looks like. Mt. Joy is close to Marietta, right? Lancaster area? This is closer than some of the buildings I have been looking at and I do really want to stay close to NY.
Do you happen to have any pictures of the Mt. Joy theatre? Do you know what kind of shape it is in? How is the parking around the building.
This is one thing I didn’t particularly care for about Marietta. Beautiful town…but really no place to park.
How big is the Mt. Joy theatre?
As you can tell I am particularly anxious and I do want to get an idea of what the theatre looks like. Do you know what style the theatre is constructed in? (Art Deco, Etc).
Ok, I have to run now, but thanx for the info. You got my attention.
Yes, I am familiar with the parking issues in that area and it is a shame that the city doesn’t put more parking garages in. (Put them underground perhaps!) The Uptown definately needs something like that. But it is a very serious point. I, myself, am looking to buy a small theatre in a downtown area in PA, Vermont, or Virginia. However, most of these downtown areas were thriving in the times of the horse and buggy later there usually were trolleys, busses and trains. Most people used those methods of transportation or just walked. But today with everyone driving, there has to be a place to put the cars.
When I find a theatre I like, I usually end up also finding out there there isn’t a place to put the cars! Towns get very fickle about having cars floating around the streets clogging everything up, even later at night! So I know what you mean there.
Now, being from Chicago…I am assuming you been to the Chicago Theatre. How do they handle the parking issue?
I am sorry to hear that the interior has deteriorated. As I said, the only pictures I have are from 1990 and now it is 2007.
It would be a shame to loose this building. If Chicago lost this theatre, it would be harking back to when NY lost the Roxy…Very much a similar theatre in size and beauty.
I love that name. If I were to build a theatre from the ground up I would call it the Roxy.
But for me, nothing will top the Chicago Paradise. There was just something about that building that just blows me away every time I look at pictures of it. I am a sucker for atmospheric theatres anyway…especially John Eberson’s creations
But the Bronx Loews Paradise is very close to the Chicago Paradise. It is also an atmospheric designed by John Eberson.
Yes, you normally would be right, the Bronx is quite a questionable area, but they do have very good security in place when there is an event. Futhermore, that area they are cleaning up nicely. After all, tons and tons of money went into the restoration of that building and they are doing their best to make the area better so more people will want to come and see the theatre. They offer tours of the building as well. It is a pretty big building too. I think it is just shy of 4000 seats.
Here, get a load of this. This is a picture of the auditorium in mid restoration:
Rich—Yes, you are absolutely correct, The Uptown is physically larger than Radio City. Keep in mind though Radio City still does have a greater capacity. I have always been a lover of Radio City Music Hall, but after seeing the interior picture of the Uptown, I had to do a double take. The Uptown clearly can rival Radio City in sheer beauty alone once fully restored.
I really am anxious to see this building get restored. But it just seems like there are always road blocks and red tape encircling this building. There is a perverbial black cloud hanging over the Uptown.
I admit I have not been keeping up on current events with the Uptown. Last I heard they were doing some sort of stabalizing work and removed the beautiful parapet on the crest of the building. But I have not heard much about the restoration of the interior and how that is going. I hope it is moving along. The last interior pictures I saw were from 1990.
I KNOW TRUTH—Nice to see you around and still posting, I remember we were talking about another Chicago Theatre at about the time you were marauding Paul (supposedly he is working on a theatre in Youngstown now. I’m curious as to how that project is panning out). I know that you followed the Uptown closely, but I guess you haven’t heard anything new lately, huh?
I personally never have been to Chicago, but I will say that from pictures, Chicago was the one city that could even rival NY when it came to the Golden Era picture palaces. It is also a shame that most of it’s beautiful theatres have been destroyed. The Granada had a sister as well, called the Marbro. I think I posted pictures up top somewhere. Then there was the famous Paradise Theatre. This one building alone got me interested in the old picture palaces.
The beautiful Chicago Theatre is one of Chicago’s best theatres that has been restored and is in full operation. But Chicago still has one more gem…a building physically larger and arguably more beautiful than New York’s very own Radio City. That is the Uptown Theatre. You can check that out here. Supposedly there are plans in the works to restore this gem, but it is rough going. But I am hoping it can be saved. It is a massive building and would make an excellent concert hall. The Granada and Uptown are surprisingly similar in design.
I do not know where you are from, but if you are close to the NY area, they just recently restored the Loews Paradise theatre in the Bronx a couple years ago. THIS theatre is to die for. Only one could imagine what the Uptown would look like fully restored.
Yes, I have heard a few times that the PEOPLE in the town do want something done over at the theatre, but as you found out…the TOWN seems to be lax at answering emails in regards to the theatre. I actually almost forgot about this place.
It would be nice if something can be done with the theatre.
When you go, please do take MANY pictures. I am curious to see everything, particularly the control booth, stage and backstage areas. I would like to know if the building has a basement (storage) and separate backstage restrooms as well. See if it also has a fly area.
From the look of it, Marietta is a beautiful town and one of those places that is full of character and very unique. But so far of the few people that I talked to there, they seem to be a little ‘off’…if you know what I mean.
As for stage size, you said, ‘small’. How small? I intend to do dance acts and other broadway style shows. So anything less than a 30 wide (not including wings) by 25 foot deep stage I most certainly will have trouble with.
Keep in touch though. I will visit IF I can qualify that the theatre will handle my needs and the people’s needs.
Hello Lost
No I dont have THAT many, but I have quite a few. Some pictures are a bit dark though. Keep in mind I didn’t have a pro camera with me. But I have lighted up most of the pictures so you can see some detailing.
The Latchis is a very unique theatre. I would almost say it is up there with the rest of the picture palaces. While not as massive and overpowering as most golden age theatres are, it it rich in character.
Unfortunately the week I went to Brattleboro, the rather boring “A Scanner Darkly” was playing and I didn’t go for an actual screening. But the tour was LOADS of fun and I got to see what most people dont.
Vermont has alot of theatres that are a must see. Two I didn’t get to see where the Rutland Paramount and Vermont’s crown jewel, the Burlington Flynn.
Photobucket? Yeah I heard of them…but I have ALOT of pictures. Not just a few. Is there a limit to a free account? I took pictures of the lobby, all three auditoriums, the stage/backstage areas. Projection booth…etc. Lots of good stuff.
I personally had a tour of the Latchis last year and I have lots of pictures…especially of the auditorium(s). If you are impressed with the outside, it is nothing compared to the inside. The architecture on the inside is different. Even though the Latchis building epitomizes the Art Deco style overall. The theatre itself is ancient Greek style. There are many recreations of various temples and other Greek structures that run along the walls. The Theatre is an atmospheric and the stars depict the symbols of the zodiac.
I explained this all in my post above…scroll up. I think one of the things I love about this theatre is the way it is divided. The original owners divided the auditorium UNDER the balcony, thus leaving much of the main auditorium intact.
Did you get pictures of the inside? If so, then you know what I am referring to. It is a beautiful theatre and I am happy to see that it is being saved and it will be undergoing a full restoration and expansion soon that will enable it to do bigger and better live shows.
RON—The Latchis family sold the theatre and hotel in 2003. So they no longer own the building. However, since they had it so long IS the reason why the building remains in excellent condition. The new owners are very estatic about the building and as you can see, measures are already being taken to fully restore the building. For me it makes me happy to know that this building will be loved and cared for many years to come. It is a ‘must see’ visit if you are in the area. But be careful if you bring your car into town, parking in Brattleboro isn’t the greatest, especially around peak quitting time and a good part of the afternoon. At night it is much better though and the town “quiets down”. Most of the parking that is available you have to pay for.
But overall, Brattleboro is a cool town and there is an excellent restaurant by the bridge and you eat on the roof of the building overlooking the river. It is an awesome place. With the exception of the parking, Brattleboro is a great town and they have many historic buildings.
Wilmington and Bellows Falls are also nice historic towns to look at while you are in Vermont. I mention some sights above as well
I do admit that I am ashamed of myself for not hearing about this group before (or the theatre for that matter). Mainly because I worked in Oakdale. I didn’t think there is much in terms of the performing arts here on the eastern end of Long Island.
I guess many overlooked this company because of their close proximity to Gateway Playhouse, which is considered a performing arts giant. It appears CM is very similar in programming. But could be overshaddowed by Gateway, which is known for using Broadway talents. Also Gateway frequently uses the beautiful Patchogue Theatre which has excellent road frontage. The oakdale theatre is wedged in the corner of a shopping center (from the photos I seen).
Given by what you folks have written here and from what I seen on their website, I am definately going to check CM out. Their programming looks pretty good.
In fact I might even help them out, especially since I want to buy a theatre myself. Gateway turned me down flat when I offered to help. Hopefully these guys are a bit more open minded.
Does anyone know if they operate all year? If so, then that could work to their advantage as Gateway closes down for a few months in the winter.
I agree with Long Island Movies…the facade of this theatre leaves much to be desired. But understand that CM is probably renting from the shopping center owner and there is probably quite a bit of restrictions on what the theatre can do on the outside. But by right if the shopping center owner values the theatre, he should have the facade improved.
I guess this is why I stayed away from shopping center theatres in a search for my own building. I do like my chase lights and neon and it is hard as it is to find a town that allows you to do facade work with this kind of lighting anymore. Forget about a shopping center…they would never allow it.
But it sounds like CM has a little bit of a good thing going here. I am thinking about swinging by the place next week and check things out.
I have contacted the Chamber already, no response to email. I may have to call. But I am finding out much information and believe it or not I do have you guys to thank for it.
Iit has been established there is a parking problem…so that has to be addressed. We know the building is for sale and outside of the twinning, it has not been converted or used for anything else.
From pictures and other descriptions, we know the building will need work.
So the questions remain about the overall condition, price, and how much the town will help…ie with the parking issue.
From what I gather Bloomsburg sounds like a divided town. Some want to move ahead and others want to preserve.
I also found out that there is another theatre in Bloomsburg that is open and running live performances. What more it is around the corner from the Capitol. This could be a bad thing, or a good thing.
For myself…I would network with the other theatre and work with them in terms of programming. Do different shows. Having two good live theatres in town COULD bring in a good draw and entice people to stay in town overnight if they wish to catch both shows.
However it could also be this other theatre that may be pushing for the parking lot project at the Capitol site. For one, with the Capitol out of the way, they would eliminate competition. If this is the other theatre’s thinking…then that could be a problem. Looking at the facts…the other theatre only has about 300 to 400 seats. The Capitol holds 911 and is twinned. Using the Capitol as a dual event building could potentially put the other theatre out to pasture. So the very presence of the building could be perceived as a threat to them. One would never know. But I would never go into the theatre business with the intention of pummeling another theatre company especially if they are dedicated to preserving a historic building as well. But a mutual existance of two good theatres in the town could definately boost entertainment numbers in the town. Of course I would have to check the stats on the town to further see if there is a large enough market to support a theatre as large as the Capitol.
Lost—I missed that part about the 96 cars. That is peanuts and definately isn’t worth the destruction of the theatre. But on the same token you are probably right. The town would have to level a good amount of property to sufficiently support a municipal lot that could serve the commercial needs of the town. Another solution to this problem is to perhaps locate a parking facility on the outskirts of the town where there would be more room and offer a bus service to and from the parking garage. The downside of this is that more than likely parking would have to have a charge attached to it pay for the services more over it probably will be located some distance from the theatre. Paid parking doesn’t sit well with most people. I don’t like it myself, but if all else fails it is a viable solution. I guess it would boil down to town support for a project like this.
Well, I will try again with the town chamber or even the county chamber.
So we will see what turns up. For the most part I just want to know if the building is in reasonable condition for a project like this. It wouldn’t be the first time where I came across a building with a great facade, but needed massive work on the interior.
Well, at least that certificate was down voted. So there are some people that DO want the building to remain. This could be a good thing because it may not be hard to find supporters for the building. It is just getting harder and harder to find really nice theatre’s left.
Lost…you are from Long Island like myself, right? If not, well if you seen what it is like here, there are NO classic theatres left. Almost all have been either torn down or have been absorbed into retail outlets. It is only when I venture out into ‘Small Town USA’ is where I find beautiful buildings such as the Capitol.
This building is one of the few that really have a nice facade that wasn’t modernized or butchered. The Marquee is very Art Deco and the interior can be made to reflect such (As I heard the ‘twinning’ removed much of the buildings interior character).
I have no interior pictures of this building at all, so I don’t know what it looks like inside now, or when it was originally built.
But the building has turned my head to the point where I do want to find out as much about it as possible.
As for the parking…as I mentioned earlier, probably the easiest thing to do is find a building close by that can be leveled. Something not of historic significance. Tearing down some law offices would be nice or an old department store. Department stores usually have loads of parking. The trick is finding something close by the theatre and will interfere very little with the town’s traffic flow.
Many things to consider. I guess this is why here on Long Island many theatres were converted to retail. Going retail, you now have a big space and generally you would only have 30 to 40 people in the retail venue at any given one time. So not much of an issue when it comes to parking and revenue is made from an otherwise unused building. But a strong retail district will not make a town…a strong entertainment district WILL make a town. A store will only pull people from about 5 to 10 miles. A single live theatre’s reach would be 10 times that. Plus if you have other things in the town such as other theatres or nightclubs, there is a solid reason to have more people come and visit the town. I think this is the point that most people are missing when they opt to destroy a theatre. Once it is gone…more than likely in a small town, it is gone forever…and usually nothing will replace it (theatre wise). Either that or the town puts in some anticeptic dull and boring building that has no character or is so ‘modernly’ designed that it has the taste level of a cow’s a—.
To me there are just a handful of theatre designs that work. I guess I am picky that way. Usually anything designed like a palace, reflects the movie age (art deco), is themed (Chinese, Egyptian, Mayan), or is an atmospheric flys well with me. These new modern PAC’s just turn me off.
Many new theatre designs are made bland on purpose as they want to focus the attention to the screen or stage. For me, I don’t buy it. I think having a nice beautifully designed (or themed) building adds to its charm and what more it just adds to the whole theatre experience.
For one, has anyone seen the newly restored Loews Paradise here in NY? How about the Chicago Uptown? These buildings are simply to die for.
How do you like that for a howdja do? Here I am talking about the need for good parking for a theatre project to work and they want to plant a garage right on the Capitol Theatre’s spot.
How did that song go again with the paving paradise and putting up a parking lot?
You see though…that is the problem with these old theatres and parking. The two need to go hand in hand. Most people getting into the theatre business only concentrate on filling the theatre’s seats…which is understandable, but very few think about where are you going to put all those cars.
While I would be 100% behind Bloomsburg in adding more parking in their town, destroying the theatre is not one of those options. Perhaps they can pull down a lesser building nearby…one of less historic significance that is. A joint project to enhance parking AND revitalize the theatre will mean a tremendous increase in business for the town. Something they should consider, especially if the Capitol can be made into a live venue.
200 spaces would be tough to work with…even if permission was granted by the shopping center to use the spaces for evening use. This is a problem I run into alot with old theatres. Many of these beautiful buildings were built when the average mode of transportation was either a train, horse/buggy, or most people just heel-toed it. The trouble is the changing times require a parking space for everyone nowadays. So the forumla I always use is an averaged 2 to 3 people per car…as almost no one goes to the theatre alone and couples usually take up the lion’s share. So for a 900 person theatre like the Capitol…300 car spaces is a good starting point. NOW, if there are other support mass transit transportation in the town, such as trains and busses…that would significantly reduce the need for parking of that size. But without a good mass transit system. The question does have to come to mind…“You can have the best and most beautiful theatre in a 100 mile radius, but it will not mean a damn if people can’t get to you”. Or in simpler terms…‘location, location, location’. I fight with these figures all the time every time I look into a place. The numbers just have to work…parking is only just one of the issues though. I will say that 200 is a GOOD start provided that the shopping center would allow use of it’s parking lot for evening shows. But I would find that highly unlikely. Another alternative is if there are some buildings abuting or close to the theatre that could be torn down and made into a municipal lot. This will help too. So overall definately more information on the area surrounding the theatre is in order. Hopefully something could be worked out. I very much like the facade of this building and if it is in fairly good shape, I think it can be made into a great theatre once again.
Lost Memory—I will check out the chamber…I am sure they can answer most of my questions. Thanks for the website.
I been with Cinema Treasures for a while now in search of a theatre. I do have a unique case in that I want to sell my overpriced (and overtaxed) home in NY and settle down in an area where the cost of living is lower. So naturally the price of the building is a concern. Since I would be selling my home, the fact that your building has apartments makes it VERY attractive to me.
Being that you mentioned that you owned the building for 13 years, I guess it is save to assume that you are not the same group that ‘Gabe’ was referring to above. Naturally I don’t want to step on anyone elses toes if they have dibs on the place. But if not, I certainly would like to find out more about the building. You can reach me at My busy schedule offers very little telephone time per day and I do most of my emails at night. Other concerns (outside of the apartment) is if the building is set up for live shows, if there is adequet free parking capability near or around the building. Finally…the condition. Obviously this is where the pictures mainly come into play. Also if you could let me know what major repairs the building needs, that would be of help as well.
Would you know if this building is for sale? Its price and more important, can it handle live shows? If so, I would be curious as to other live theatres in the area?
I am not too concerned about local movie theatres…anyone in the movie business can tell you there is a reason why single screen theatres don’t cut it anymore.
BUT with this building’s 911 capacity and the fact that is is already divided…does interest me as this could be a good multi-use venue. Most towns nowadays can’t support a theatre of this size even if I were to make it a single venue again. BUT if the market is there, there always exists the possibility of a full restoration.
Now, last thing. How is parking in the area? Is there a good size parking field nearby? A building of this size does need about a good 300 to 400 parking spaces.
Believe it or not…it is the lack of parking that has been the demise of many of these old picture palaces. So that is a major concern as well. People are not going to patronize a venue if they have to walk 10 blocks to get to it from their car. Simply put, I wouldn’t do it…so I wouldn’t expect anyone else to.
Thank You for information…In terms of the tuxedo store, are you sure that they just didn’t move into the theatre from another location on the block? That would seem like a highly plausible scenario. But if indeed they are only using the marquee, then that is a good sign that the building should be intact.
Yes, I did read that the theatre was twinned and I can use that to my advantage. If indeed the main theatre has live show capabilities, I could always show a movie or host another event in the other theatre.
I am hoping that the main theatre does have a stage. This is a 1920’s theatre and most theatres from this era were built as movie/vaudeville houses.
Just having a stage is only the beginning though. For live shows, a backstage area is necessary. Separate washrooms for the performers is necessary and finally one would need a fly area above the stage.
A good indicator just by looking outside of the building is to look for a vertical extension towards the back of the building. It would appear as a noticeable protrusion. This is the fly area I was talking about above. So if the building has this…then more then likely if should follow suit that it can handle live shows to a certain extent.
Best thing is if one could get inside the building and get some pictures.
Let me know if you hear anything else that comes down the pike.
I definately will want to keep my eye on this one.
It reminds me alot of the facade of the theatre in the movie “The Majestic”…right down to the missing marquee letter. So I had a good laugh about that. But the building has a really nice facade…I could only imaging what it would look like fully restored.
Is this project still under way, or is it abandoned? If abandoned, I would like to get more information about the building. Pictures would be helpful and also the sale price. I am interested in this building because it is a theatre with living quarters and other income possibilities, in addition to the theatre. I would like to use it for a live venue. Does the building have a full back stage area? Again pictures are worth 1000 words.
Urrgghh! Another theatre turned retail. I wanted to find out more about the theatre last year. No one came forward with details :(. I am curious as to what the interior looks(ed)like.
I am hoping the Tuxedo place didn’t permanently alter the interior much in the way the Beaver Falls Granada has been altered.
Got $3-5 mil laying around? I sure hope so, because that is pretty much what it will take to restore this gem and open it up for business.
I would also do a bit of homework on the area as well. Ever heard of the “Rust Belt”?
Do I sound like the voice of experience? Perhaps. The Beaver Falls Granada was one of the first theatres I looked into for purchasing. I have loads of photos of the interior of the building. It is going to need ALOT of work. BUT, if you have a deep pocket and don’t mind a slow return on your investment, then I do say that this building has dramatic potential. It is a DeAngelis building, but it is an atmospheric and it is VERY much in the same flavor as John Eberson’s creations. I will say that the facade and proscenium are still intact. But the roof, balcony, and the orchestra section are in need of major restoration. The biggest problems are the concrete slab roof which needs to be replaced and also the orchestra seating area has been converted to a mini-mall. The ground has been leveled with concrete and it would take much to restore this area back to it’s original state.
Did I scare you away, yet? Well, there is MORE! The building next to the theatre has a restaurant in it and offices/apartments on the upper floors. Buying both buildings and restoring them could be a huge boost to the town’s economy in the downtown area.
I believe it can be done. It is not hopeless. BUT as I said in my opening line…Got $3-5mil laying around?
Well, I guess in finding this thread I answered my own question in regards to the Alhambra Theatre if it existed or not. The answer is yes and no. There WAS an Alhambra Theatre in Brooklyn, but not in Times Square. But it is nice to know that the interior theatre shots used in King Kong did come from an existing theatre.
The Civic sure is a beauty!
As for the film…I liked it. I have seen the original as well and I must say that Peter Jackson did a good job at stepping up to the plate and taking on this task. Unlike the 1976 version, which was not bad, but rather horrendous in comparison to the original. I think the biggest complaint about Jackson’s King Kong is that it is too long and most of the beginning is dragged out. I concur here as well. I also didn’t like the giant bug scene either as that was just a time eater. But there were many scenes that stood out and in comparison to the original were very much upheld. The Kong vs T-Rexes were awesome. The whole ‘offering’ ceremony scene with the burning oil cascading down the wall and into the chasm below was awesome. Of course the 1933 depiction of New York and Times Square really was the icing on the cake. I seen an old film taking of old theatre marquees around the same era (in fact it is posted under the Chicago Paradise Theatre thread) and Peter Jackson did hit it right on the head. It looked great! The theatre looked great! All in all, I got more and more into the movie as it went on. The classic ending where Kong climbs the Empire State Building is also fantastic right up to the touching final moments between Ann and Kong.
So no, I cannot say that Peter Jackson didn’t do a good job on the film. He did do an excellent job. I mean for one, I could make a gripe about the early 1930’s stop action photography of the original film is laughable at times, but the 1933 version’s story does get more to the point, but as with James Cameron’s Titanic…I am sure that Peter Jackson was not going to make a carbon copy of the original. But I will say that overall I do like both the 1933 version and Peter Jackson’s version equally alike. I must say I wasn’t disappointed. Peter Jackson did come through with King Kong as a great follow up to his previous stupendous work on The Lord Of The Rings. I don’t think there are any gripes there.
Correct me if I am wrong…but wasn’t Alhambra also the name of the theatre in Jackson’s King Kong? Did that theatre ever exist in NY in the 30’s??? Given that Peter Jackson does his homework, I would say that this would be a resounding “Yes”. But thusfar this is the only Alhambra theatre I came up with in NY. So the question remains, did it, or didn’t it exist.
Hello Paul,
I am familiar with the trouble Chicago has on the West side and that also led to the demise of the Granada. I also know the Marbro and Paradise where also in this area.
However, I really didn’t know where either the Uptown or Chicago theatres are situated.
I don’t know how Chicago’s mass transit system compares to NY. But in NYC there is ALOT going on underground. Installing a parking garage that goes underground and taps into a subway system (if present) could bring alot of people to the Uptown. Furthermore, not only would this benefit the Uptown, but the whole area in general.
I just think that some solution should present itself or people should just work things out better or else another magnificent structure will be lost.
I am surprised that the area DID have a parking structure and it was taken down and not another one built to replace it. Now that is something that doesn’t make sense to me.
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Hello Dennis,
Wow! That IS some interesting information you got there. NICE homework trip. Yeah I wish you could have go into the theatre, but when you mentioned that an entire complex is for sale with the theatre, that turned my head. Do you know if apartments are also included in the complex? I need a place to live so, that is a requirement with my theatre purchase. I need a building where I can raise my family.
That is funny that you mention the theatre only needs seats. I just found someone selling a bunch of theatre equipment…and yes, almost new seats. Now I know where the Marietta Theatre is, but I don’t know much about Mt. Joy. I don’t even know what the building looks like. Mt. Joy is close to Marietta, right? Lancaster area? This is closer than some of the buildings I have been looking at and I do really want to stay close to NY.
Do you happen to have any pictures of the Mt. Joy theatre? Do you know what kind of shape it is in? How is the parking around the building.
This is one thing I didn’t particularly care for about Marietta. Beautiful town…but really no place to park.
How big is the Mt. Joy theatre?
As you can tell I am particularly anxious and I do want to get an idea of what the theatre looks like. Do you know what style the theatre is constructed in? (Art Deco, Etc).
Ok, I have to run now, but thanx for the info. You got my attention.
Hello Catherine,
Yes, I am familiar with the parking issues in that area and it is a shame that the city doesn’t put more parking garages in. (Put them underground perhaps!) The Uptown definately needs something like that. But it is a very serious point. I, myself, am looking to buy a small theatre in a downtown area in PA, Vermont, or Virginia. However, most of these downtown areas were thriving in the times of the horse and buggy later there usually were trolleys, busses and trains. Most people used those methods of transportation or just walked. But today with everyone driving, there has to be a place to put the cars.
When I find a theatre I like, I usually end up also finding out there there isn’t a place to put the cars! Towns get very fickle about having cars floating around the streets clogging everything up, even later at night! So I know what you mean there.
Now, being from Chicago…I am assuming you been to the Chicago Theatre. How do they handle the parking issue?
I am sorry to hear that the interior has deteriorated. As I said, the only pictures I have are from 1990 and now it is 2007.
It would be a shame to loose this building. If Chicago lost this theatre, it would be harking back to when NY lost the Roxy…Very much a similar theatre in size and beauty.
I love that name. If I were to build a theatre from the ground up I would call it the Roxy.
But for me, nothing will top the Chicago Paradise. There was just something about that building that just blows me away every time I look at pictures of it. I am a sucker for atmospheric theatres anyway…especially John Eberson’s creations
But the Bronx Loews Paradise is very close to the Chicago Paradise. It is also an atmospheric designed by John Eberson.
Yes, you normally would be right, the Bronx is quite a questionable area, but they do have very good security in place when there is an event. Futhermore, that area they are cleaning up nicely. After all, tons and tons of money went into the restoration of that building and they are doing their best to make the area better so more people will want to come and see the theatre. They offer tours of the building as well. It is a pretty big building too. I think it is just shy of 4000 seats.
Here, get a load of this. This is a picture of the auditorium in mid restoration:
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Nice huh?
Geo
Hello All,
Rich—Yes, you are absolutely correct, The Uptown is physically larger than Radio City. Keep in mind though Radio City still does have a greater capacity. I have always been a lover of Radio City Music Hall, but after seeing the interior picture of the Uptown, I had to do a double take. The Uptown clearly can rival Radio City in sheer beauty alone once fully restored.
I really am anxious to see this building get restored. But it just seems like there are always road blocks and red tape encircling this building. There is a perverbial black cloud hanging over the Uptown.
I admit I have not been keeping up on current events with the Uptown. Last I heard they were doing some sort of stabalizing work and removed the beautiful parapet on the crest of the building. But I have not heard much about the restoration of the interior and how that is going. I hope it is moving along. The last interior pictures I saw were from 1990.
I KNOW TRUTH—Nice to see you around and still posting, I remember we were talking about another Chicago Theatre at about the time you were marauding Paul (supposedly he is working on a theatre in Youngstown now. I’m curious as to how that project is panning out). I know that you followed the Uptown closely, but I guess you haven’t heard anything new lately, huh?
Geo
Hello Catherine,
I personally never have been to Chicago, but I will say that from pictures, Chicago was the one city that could even rival NY when it came to the Golden Era picture palaces. It is also a shame that most of it’s beautiful theatres have been destroyed. The Granada had a sister as well, called the Marbro. I think I posted pictures up top somewhere. Then there was the famous Paradise Theatre. This one building alone got me interested in the old picture palaces.
The beautiful Chicago Theatre is one of Chicago’s best theatres that has been restored and is in full operation. But Chicago still has one more gem…a building physically larger and arguably more beautiful than New York’s very own Radio City. That is the Uptown Theatre. You can check that out here. Supposedly there are plans in the works to restore this gem, but it is rough going. But I am hoping it can be saved. It is a massive building and would make an excellent concert hall. The Granada and Uptown are surprisingly similar in design.
I do not know where you are from, but if you are close to the NY area, they just recently restored the Loews Paradise theatre in the Bronx a couple years ago. THIS theatre is to die for. Only one could imagine what the Uptown would look like fully restored.
Geo
Hello Dennis,
Yes, I have heard a few times that the PEOPLE in the town do want something done over at the theatre, but as you found out…the TOWN seems to be lax at answering emails in regards to the theatre. I actually almost forgot about this place.
It would be nice if something can be done with the theatre.
When you go, please do take MANY pictures. I am curious to see everything, particularly the control booth, stage and backstage areas. I would like to know if the building has a basement (storage) and separate backstage restrooms as well. See if it also has a fly area.
From the look of it, Marietta is a beautiful town and one of those places that is full of character and very unique. But so far of the few people that I talked to there, they seem to be a little ‘off’…if you know what I mean.
As for stage size, you said, ‘small’. How small? I intend to do dance acts and other broadway style shows. So anything less than a 30 wide (not including wings) by 25 foot deep stage I most certainly will have trouble with.
Keep in touch though. I will visit IF I can qualify that the theatre will handle my needs and the people’s needs.
Geo
Hello Jaime,
Read this:
/theaters/5231/
It is a LONG post on the Lawford Theatre
Next read:
/theaters/69
/theaters/437
You be the judge.
I have a bridge for sale in NY…Cheap!
Here is a picture:
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Hello Lost
No I dont have THAT many, but I have quite a few. Some pictures are a bit dark though. Keep in mind I didn’t have a pro camera with me. But I have lighted up most of the pictures so you can see some detailing.
The Latchis is a very unique theatre. I would almost say it is up there with the rest of the picture palaces. While not as massive and overpowering as most golden age theatres are, it it rich in character.
Unfortunately the week I went to Brattleboro, the rather boring “A Scanner Darkly” was playing and I didn’t go for an actual screening. But the tour was LOADS of fun and I got to see what most people dont.
Vermont has alot of theatres that are a must see. Two I didn’t get to see where the Rutland Paramount and Vermont’s crown jewel, the Burlington Flynn.
Geo
Hello Lost, Roland.
Photobucket? Yeah I heard of them…but I have ALOT of pictures. Not just a few. Is there a limit to a free account? I took pictures of the lobby, all three auditoriums, the stage/backstage areas. Projection booth…etc. Lots of good stuff.
Geo
Hello Lost:
I personally had a tour of the Latchis last year and I have lots of pictures…especially of the auditorium(s). If you are impressed with the outside, it is nothing compared to the inside. The architecture on the inside is different. Even though the Latchis building epitomizes the Art Deco style overall. The theatre itself is ancient Greek style. There are many recreations of various temples and other Greek structures that run along the walls. The Theatre is an atmospheric and the stars depict the symbols of the zodiac.
I explained this all in my post above…scroll up. I think one of the things I love about this theatre is the way it is divided. The original owners divided the auditorium UNDER the balcony, thus leaving much of the main auditorium intact.
Did you get pictures of the inside? If so, then you know what I am referring to. It is a beautiful theatre and I am happy to see that it is being saved and it will be undergoing a full restoration and expansion soon that will enable it to do bigger and better live shows.
RON—The Latchis family sold the theatre and hotel in 2003. So they no longer own the building. However, since they had it so long IS the reason why the building remains in excellent condition. The new owners are very estatic about the building and as you can see, measures are already being taken to fully restore the building. For me it makes me happy to know that this building will be loved and cared for many years to come. It is a ‘must see’ visit if you are in the area. But be careful if you bring your car into town, parking in Brattleboro isn’t the greatest, especially around peak quitting time and a good part of the afternoon. At night it is much better though and the town “quiets down”. Most of the parking that is available you have to pay for.
But overall, Brattleboro is a cool town and there is an excellent restaurant by the bridge and you eat on the roof of the building overlooking the river. It is an awesome place. With the exception of the parking, Brattleboro is a great town and they have many historic buildings.
Wilmington and Bellows Falls are also nice historic towns to look at while you are in Vermont. I mention some sights above as well
GEo
I do admit that I am ashamed of myself for not hearing about this group before (or the theatre for that matter). Mainly because I worked in Oakdale. I didn’t think there is much in terms of the performing arts here on the eastern end of Long Island.
I guess many overlooked this company because of their close proximity to Gateway Playhouse, which is considered a performing arts giant. It appears CM is very similar in programming. But could be overshaddowed by Gateway, which is known for using Broadway talents. Also Gateway frequently uses the beautiful Patchogue Theatre which has excellent road frontage. The oakdale theatre is wedged in the corner of a shopping center (from the photos I seen).
Given by what you folks have written here and from what I seen on their website, I am definately going to check CM out. Their programming looks pretty good.
In fact I might even help them out, especially since I want to buy a theatre myself. Gateway turned me down flat when I offered to help. Hopefully these guys are a bit more open minded.
Does anyone know if they operate all year? If so, then that could work to their advantage as Gateway closes down for a few months in the winter.
I agree with Long Island Movies…the facade of this theatre leaves much to be desired. But understand that CM is probably renting from the shopping center owner and there is probably quite a bit of restrictions on what the theatre can do on the outside. But by right if the shopping center owner values the theatre, he should have the facade improved.
I guess this is why I stayed away from shopping center theatres in a search for my own building. I do like my chase lights and neon and it is hard as it is to find a town that allows you to do facade work with this kind of lighting anymore. Forget about a shopping center…they would never allow it.
But it sounds like CM has a little bit of a good thing going here. I am thinking about swinging by the place next week and check things out.
Geo
Hello Amy,
Please send an inventory and price list of what you have to:
Thank You,
Geo
Hello John, Lost…
I have contacted the Chamber already, no response to email. I may have to call. But I am finding out much information and believe it or not I do have you guys to thank for it.
Iit has been established there is a parking problem…so that has to be addressed. We know the building is for sale and outside of the twinning, it has not been converted or used for anything else.
From pictures and other descriptions, we know the building will need work.
So the questions remain about the overall condition, price, and how much the town will help…ie with the parking issue.
From what I gather Bloomsburg sounds like a divided town. Some want to move ahead and others want to preserve.
I also found out that there is another theatre in Bloomsburg that is open and running live performances. What more it is around the corner from the Capitol. This could be a bad thing, or a good thing.
For myself…I would network with the other theatre and work with them in terms of programming. Do different shows. Having two good live theatres in town COULD bring in a good draw and entice people to stay in town overnight if they wish to catch both shows.
However it could also be this other theatre that may be pushing for the parking lot project at the Capitol site. For one, with the Capitol out of the way, they would eliminate competition. If this is the other theatre’s thinking…then that could be a problem. Looking at the facts…the other theatre only has about 300 to 400 seats. The Capitol holds 911 and is twinned. Using the Capitol as a dual event building could potentially put the other theatre out to pasture. So the very presence of the building could be perceived as a threat to them. One would never know. But I would never go into the theatre business with the intention of pummeling another theatre company especially if they are dedicated to preserving a historic building as well. But a mutual existance of two good theatres in the town could definately boost entertainment numbers in the town. Of course I would have to check the stats on the town to further see if there is a large enough market to support a theatre as large as the Capitol.
Lost—I missed that part about the 96 cars. That is peanuts and definately isn’t worth the destruction of the theatre. But on the same token you are probably right. The town would have to level a good amount of property to sufficiently support a municipal lot that could serve the commercial needs of the town. Another solution to this problem is to perhaps locate a parking facility on the outskirts of the town where there would be more room and offer a bus service to and from the parking garage. The downside of this is that more than likely parking would have to have a charge attached to it pay for the services more over it probably will be located some distance from the theatre. Paid parking doesn’t sit well with most people. I don’t like it myself, but if all else fails it is a viable solution. I guess it would boil down to town support for a project like this.
Well, I will try again with the town chamber or even the county chamber.
So we will see what turns up. For the most part I just want to know if the building is in reasonable condition for a project like this. It wouldn’t be the first time where I came across a building with a great facade, but needed massive work on the interior.
Geo
Hello Lost/John
Well, at least that certificate was down voted. So there are some people that DO want the building to remain. This could be a good thing because it may not be hard to find supporters for the building. It is just getting harder and harder to find really nice theatre’s left.
Lost…you are from Long Island like myself, right? If not, well if you seen what it is like here, there are NO classic theatres left. Almost all have been either torn down or have been absorbed into retail outlets. It is only when I venture out into ‘Small Town USA’ is where I find beautiful buildings such as the Capitol.
This building is one of the few that really have a nice facade that wasn’t modernized or butchered. The Marquee is very Art Deco and the interior can be made to reflect such (As I heard the ‘twinning’ removed much of the buildings interior character).
I have no interior pictures of this building at all, so I don’t know what it looks like inside now, or when it was originally built.
But the building has turned my head to the point where I do want to find out as much about it as possible.
As for the parking…as I mentioned earlier, probably the easiest thing to do is find a building close by that can be leveled. Something not of historic significance. Tearing down some law offices would be nice or an old department store. Department stores usually have loads of parking. The trick is finding something close by the theatre and will interfere very little with the town’s traffic flow.
Many things to consider. I guess this is why here on Long Island many theatres were converted to retail. Going retail, you now have a big space and generally you would only have 30 to 40 people in the retail venue at any given one time. So not much of an issue when it comes to parking and revenue is made from an otherwise unused building. But a strong retail district will not make a town…a strong entertainment district WILL make a town. A store will only pull people from about 5 to 10 miles. A single live theatre’s reach would be 10 times that. Plus if you have other things in the town such as other theatres or nightclubs, there is a solid reason to have more people come and visit the town. I think this is the point that most people are missing when they opt to destroy a theatre. Once it is gone…more than likely in a small town, it is gone forever…and usually nothing will replace it (theatre wise). Either that or the town puts in some anticeptic dull and boring building that has no character or is so ‘modernly’ designed that it has the taste level of a cow’s a—.
To me there are just a handful of theatre designs that work. I guess I am picky that way. Usually anything designed like a palace, reflects the movie age (art deco), is themed (Chinese, Egyptian, Mayan), or is an atmospheric flys well with me. These new modern PAC’s just turn me off.
Many new theatre designs are made bland on purpose as they want to focus the attention to the screen or stage. For me, I don’t buy it. I think having a nice beautifully designed (or themed) building adds to its charm and what more it just adds to the whole theatre experience.
For one, has anyone seen the newly restored Loews Paradise here in NY? How about the Chicago Uptown? These buildings are simply to die for.
So I really do want an older building.
Here look at this:
http://www.norwalktheatre.com/
Look at that marquee. Now this is what I am talking about…
Geo
Hello Lost Memory…
How do you like that for a howdja do? Here I am talking about the need for good parking for a theatre project to work and they want to plant a garage right on the Capitol Theatre’s spot.
How did that song go again with the paving paradise and putting up a parking lot?
You see though…that is the problem with these old theatres and parking. The two need to go hand in hand. Most people getting into the theatre business only concentrate on filling the theatre’s seats…which is understandable, but very few think about where are you going to put all those cars.
While I would be 100% behind Bloomsburg in adding more parking in their town, destroying the theatre is not one of those options. Perhaps they can pull down a lesser building nearby…one of less historic significance that is. A joint project to enhance parking AND revitalize the theatre will mean a tremendous increase in business for the town. Something they should consider, especially if the Capitol can be made into a live venue.
Geo
Hello John,
200 spaces would be tough to work with…even if permission was granted by the shopping center to use the spaces for evening use. This is a problem I run into alot with old theatres. Many of these beautiful buildings were built when the average mode of transportation was either a train, horse/buggy, or most people just heel-toed it. The trouble is the changing times require a parking space for everyone nowadays. So the forumla I always use is an averaged 2 to 3 people per car…as almost no one goes to the theatre alone and couples usually take up the lion’s share. So for a 900 person theatre like the Capitol…300 car spaces is a good starting point. NOW, if there are other support mass transit transportation in the town, such as trains and busses…that would significantly reduce the need for parking of that size. But without a good mass transit system. The question does have to come to mind…“You can have the best and most beautiful theatre in a 100 mile radius, but it will not mean a damn if people can’t get to you”. Or in simpler terms…‘location, location, location’. I fight with these figures all the time every time I look into a place. The numbers just have to work…parking is only just one of the issues though. I will say that 200 is a GOOD start provided that the shopping center would allow use of it’s parking lot for evening shows. But I would find that highly unlikely. Another alternative is if there are some buildings abuting or close to the theatre that could be torn down and made into a municipal lot. This will help too. So overall definately more information on the area surrounding the theatre is in order. Hopefully something could be worked out. I very much like the facade of this building and if it is in fairly good shape, I think it can be made into a great theatre once again.
Lost Memory—I will check out the chamber…I am sure they can answer most of my questions. Thanks for the website.
Geo
Hello Karen,
I been with Cinema Treasures for a while now in search of a theatre. I do have a unique case in that I want to sell my overpriced (and overtaxed) home in NY and settle down in an area where the cost of living is lower. So naturally the price of the building is a concern. Since I would be selling my home, the fact that your building has apartments makes it VERY attractive to me.
Being that you mentioned that you owned the building for 13 years, I guess it is save to assume that you are not the same group that ‘Gabe’ was referring to above. Naturally I don’t want to step on anyone elses toes if they have dibs on the place. But if not, I certainly would like to find out more about the building. You can reach me at My busy schedule offers very little telephone time per day and I do most of my emails at night. Other concerns (outside of the apartment) is if the building is set up for live shows, if there is adequet free parking capability near or around the building. Finally…the condition. Obviously this is where the pictures mainly come into play. Also if you could let me know what major repairs the building needs, that would be of help as well.
Thank you for responding.
Geo
Hello John,
Would you know if this building is for sale? Its price and more important, can it handle live shows? If so, I would be curious as to other live theatres in the area?
I am not too concerned about local movie theatres…anyone in the movie business can tell you there is a reason why single screen theatres don’t cut it anymore.
BUT with this building’s 911 capacity and the fact that is is already divided…does interest me as this could be a good multi-use venue. Most towns nowadays can’t support a theatre of this size even if I were to make it a single venue again. BUT if the market is there, there always exists the possibility of a full restoration.
Now, last thing. How is parking in the area? Is there a good size parking field nearby? A building of this size does need about a good 300 to 400 parking spaces.
Believe it or not…it is the lack of parking that has been the demise of many of these old picture palaces. So that is a major concern as well. People are not going to patronize a venue if they have to walk 10 blocks to get to it from their car. Simply put, I wouldn’t do it…so I wouldn’t expect anyone else to.
Thanx for the info,
Geo
Hello BOBS
Thank You for information…In terms of the tuxedo store, are you sure that they just didn’t move into the theatre from another location on the block? That would seem like a highly plausible scenario. But if indeed they are only using the marquee, then that is a good sign that the building should be intact.
Yes, I did read that the theatre was twinned and I can use that to my advantage. If indeed the main theatre has live show capabilities, I could always show a movie or host another event in the other theatre.
I am hoping that the main theatre does have a stage. This is a 1920’s theatre and most theatres from this era were built as movie/vaudeville houses.
Just having a stage is only the beginning though. For live shows, a backstage area is necessary. Separate washrooms for the performers is necessary and finally one would need a fly area above the stage.
A good indicator just by looking outside of the building is to look for a vertical extension towards the back of the building. It would appear as a noticeable protrusion. This is the fly area I was talking about above. So if the building has this…then more then likely if should follow suit that it can handle live shows to a certain extent.
Best thing is if one could get inside the building and get some pictures.
Let me know if you hear anything else that comes down the pike.
I definately will want to keep my eye on this one.
It reminds me alot of the facade of the theatre in the movie “The Majestic”…right down to the missing marquee letter. So I had a good laugh about that. But the building has a really nice facade…I could only imaging what it would look like fully restored.
Thanx again,
Geo
Is this project still under way, or is it abandoned? If abandoned, I would like to get more information about the building. Pictures would be helpful and also the sale price. I am interested in this building because it is a theatre with living quarters and other income possibilities, in addition to the theatre. I would like to use it for a live venue. Does the building have a full back stage area? Again pictures are worth 1000 words.
Thank You,
Geo
Urrgghh! Another theatre turned retail. I wanted to find out more about the theatre last year. No one came forward with details :(. I am curious as to what the interior looks(ed)like.
I am hoping the Tuxedo place didn’t permanently alter the interior much in the way the Beaver Falls Granada has been altered.
Geo
Hello Joe,
Got $3-5 mil laying around? I sure hope so, because that is pretty much what it will take to restore this gem and open it up for business.
I would also do a bit of homework on the area as well. Ever heard of the “Rust Belt”?
Do I sound like the voice of experience? Perhaps. The Beaver Falls Granada was one of the first theatres I looked into for purchasing. I have loads of photos of the interior of the building. It is going to need ALOT of work. BUT, if you have a deep pocket and don’t mind a slow return on your investment, then I do say that this building has dramatic potential. It is a DeAngelis building, but it is an atmospheric and it is VERY much in the same flavor as John Eberson’s creations. I will say that the facade and proscenium are still intact. But the roof, balcony, and the orchestra section are in need of major restoration. The biggest problems are the concrete slab roof which needs to be replaced and also the orchestra seating area has been converted to a mini-mall. The ground has been leveled with concrete and it would take much to restore this area back to it’s original state.
Did I scare you away, yet? Well, there is MORE! The building next to the theatre has a restaurant in it and offices/apartments on the upper floors. Buying both buildings and restoring them could be a huge boost to the town’s economy in the downtown area.
I believe it can be done. It is not hopeless. BUT as I said in my opening line…Got $3-5mil laying around?
Geo
Well, I guess in finding this thread I answered my own question in regards to the Alhambra Theatre if it existed or not. The answer is yes and no. There WAS an Alhambra Theatre in Brooklyn, but not in Times Square. But it is nice to know that the interior theatre shots used in King Kong did come from an existing theatre.
The Civic sure is a beauty!
As for the film…I liked it. I have seen the original as well and I must say that Peter Jackson did a good job at stepping up to the plate and taking on this task. Unlike the 1976 version, which was not bad, but rather horrendous in comparison to the original. I think the biggest complaint about Jackson’s King Kong is that it is too long and most of the beginning is dragged out. I concur here as well. I also didn’t like the giant bug scene either as that was just a time eater. But there were many scenes that stood out and in comparison to the original were very much upheld. The Kong vs T-Rexes were awesome. The whole ‘offering’ ceremony scene with the burning oil cascading down the wall and into the chasm below was awesome. Of course the 1933 depiction of New York and Times Square really was the icing on the cake. I seen an old film taking of old theatre marquees around the same era (in fact it is posted under the Chicago Paradise Theatre thread) and Peter Jackson did hit it right on the head. It looked great! The theatre looked great! All in all, I got more and more into the movie as it went on. The classic ending where Kong climbs the Empire State Building is also fantastic right up to the touching final moments between Ann and Kong.
So no, I cannot say that Peter Jackson didn’t do a good job on the film. He did do an excellent job. I mean for one, I could make a gripe about the early 1930’s stop action photography of the original film is laughable at times, but the 1933 version’s story does get more to the point, but as with James Cameron’s Titanic…I am sure that Peter Jackson was not going to make a carbon copy of the original. But I will say that overall I do like both the 1933 version and Peter Jackson’s version equally alike. I must say I wasn’t disappointed. Peter Jackson did come through with King Kong as a great follow up to his previous stupendous work on The Lord Of The Rings. I don’t think there are any gripes there.
‘Nuff said,
Geo
Correct me if I am wrong…but wasn’t Alhambra also the name of the theatre in Jackson’s King Kong? Did that theatre ever exist in NY in the 30’s??? Given that Peter Jackson does his homework, I would say that this would be a resounding “Yes”. But thusfar this is the only Alhambra theatre I came up with in NY. So the question remains, did it, or didn’t it exist.
Geo