Nope, not wrong. It just doesn’t seem that conditions favor it. Then again, I never thought the Oriental in Chicago would open again and look at it today.
You haven’t addressed half of my issues Bob, and you sound like you are trying pretty hard to pitch your products.
If you are going to engage in direct marketing through this web site I think you should be ready to speak to the issues facing Chinese manufacturing in today’s market, of which there are many.
I remember when all three sites around this intersection were operating. It seemed like they valued this market and were trying to create a “megaplex” by combining them. Judging by the large crowds I remember at the original Lincoln Village in the 80’s it was probably a good judgment call at the time.
I saw a movie once on 42nd St. It was about ‘89 and I think the theatre was the Harris. The theatre was completely packed, balcony and all. I was really surprised to see such numbers in an old movie theatre. But the crowd was so rowdy that you couldn’t hear the sound track of the movie. It was a really crazy experience.
It would be a real shame if the State was demolished. I’m not sure if the Joy is worth worrying about, aside maybe from retaining the facade. Can anyone provide insight on how elaborate or exciting the interior of the Joy was?
I don’t know. Should we care? I think this place was in bad shape before Katrina hit.
If they can get the State, Orpheum and Saenger running again it wouldn’t bother me to see this theatre redeveloped, maybe while retaining the Joy sign on the outside of the building.
Well, I’m not exactly sure what that means. But I do know that 70,000 Chinese factories have gone out of business since the beginning of 2008 and that unpaid employees are rioting in the streets while scrap dealers comb through empty production buildings.
I also know that if I were running a manufacturing company in the USA that I would be very hesitant to do business with China after watching oil spike to $150 a barrel. Prices have come back down now. But they could definitely get very high again. That creates a huge unknown factor in a company’s business plan.
I have also heard that Chinese factories are not nearly as cheap as they used to be because of increasing labor regulations and safety standards put in place after all the poison items were discovered.
These are the reasons I asked my question.
Couple that together with the huge defect rates I have heard reported in many Chinese shipments and I can’t imagine why anyone would open a factory there.
But then again I suppose if Merrill Lynch just collapsed and Bernie Madoff can get away with 50 billion dollars over ten years I might conclude that the current generation of American leadership isn’t particularly thoughtful.
I don’t understand why he thinks it is good business to offend people on the marquee, unless he’s so rich that it doesn’t matter to him if the theatre makes money or not. There is a very good reason why conventional wisdom says not to discuss politics.
I know California is very liberal. But there are still enough Republicans out there. Most hard-core Republicans I know would turn around and walk back to their car if they saw that.
The welfare hotel on Wilson is still there, if it is the building I am thinking of. Based on what I know of apartment hotels I’m guessing it must be crazy in there. If Uptown continues on the upswing I have to imagine the welfare hotel’s days are numbered.
Uptown still has shady elements to be sure. But it is pretty close to night and day compared with twenty years ago. There were no trendy bars and twenty-something recent college grads walking around back then.
Still nothing built here.
Nope, not wrong. It just doesn’t seem that conditions favor it. Then again, I never thought the Oriental in Chicago would open again and look at it today.
Not to be a wet blanket. But the Oakland Fox was in much better condition.
Wow, that’s a really nice one.
1972 picture of the Peoples Theatre in this movie at marker count 7:52 –
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Someone actually put a video of the demolition on YouTube. Imagine that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5T1GgZ2oA&NR=1
Great photograph and great cause. It seems like the community supports this theatre. So I would guess they will get the money they need in the end.
Anyone have an update on project status? I have heard that the Lawndale renovation stalled. But I cannot confirm.
You haven’t addressed half of my issues Bob, and you sound like you are trying pretty hard to pitch your products.
If you are going to engage in direct marketing through this web site I think you should be ready to speak to the issues facing Chinese manufacturing in today’s market, of which there are many.
I’ve heard some people complain about this development. But I don’t see what the problem is. It looks a great combination of classic and modern.
Paul is correct with regard to Zayre and Venture.
I remember when all three sites around this intersection were operating. It seemed like they valued this market and were trying to create a “megaplex” by combining them. Judging by the large crowds I remember at the original Lincoln Village in the 80’s it was probably a good judgment call at the time.
That is a good point. I hadn’t thought about it from a publicity standpoint.
But I still think it’s silly. I would find a different way to grab headlines if I were running the show.
Anyway Brian, I’m pretty sure the owner isn’t going to take my opinion into consideration.
Wow. I’ve never seen anything like that before.
A photo of the Grand Lake without an inflammatory political message on the right side of the marquee. I wonder why the off day?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwchicago/2771991915/
New link to above modern interior photo:
http://reliques.online.fr/theaters/theaters05.html
With regard to “inner city hoodlums”:
I saw a movie once on 42nd St. It was about ‘89 and I think the theatre was the Harris. The theatre was completely packed, balcony and all. I was really surprised to see such numbers in an old movie theatre. But the crowd was so rowdy that you couldn’t hear the sound track of the movie. It was a really crazy experience.
It would be a real shame if the State was demolished. I’m not sure if the Joy is worth worrying about, aside maybe from retaining the facade. Can anyone provide insight on how elaborate or exciting the interior of the Joy was?
New vertical sign:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coleorton/3062273247/
I don’t know. Should we care? I think this place was in bad shape before Katrina hit.
If they can get the State, Orpheum and Saenger running again it wouldn’t bother me to see this theatre redeveloped, maybe while retaining the Joy sign on the outside of the building.
Well, I’m not exactly sure what that means. But I do know that 70,000 Chinese factories have gone out of business since the beginning of 2008 and that unpaid employees are rioting in the streets while scrap dealers comb through empty production buildings.
I also know that if I were running a manufacturing company in the USA that I would be very hesitant to do business with China after watching oil spike to $150 a barrel. Prices have come back down now. But they could definitely get very high again. That creates a huge unknown factor in a company’s business plan.
I have also heard that Chinese factories are not nearly as cheap as they used to be because of increasing labor regulations and safety standards put in place after all the poison items were discovered.
These are the reasons I asked my question.
Couple that together with the huge defect rates I have heard reported in many Chinese shipments and I can’t imagine why anyone would open a factory there.
But then again I suppose if Merrill Lynch just collapsed and Bernie Madoff can get away with 50 billion dollars over ten years I might conclude that the current generation of American leadership isn’t particularly thoughtful.
This guy is worse than the old Soviet Union.
I don’t understand why he thinks it is good business to offend people on the marquee, unless he’s so rich that it doesn’t matter to him if the theatre makes money or not. There is a very good reason why conventional wisdom says not to discuss politics.
I know California is very liberal. But there are still enough Republicans out there. Most hard-core Republicans I know would turn around and walk back to their car if they saw that.
Does this mean they are moving production back to the United States? Or have they gone to an even cheaper overseas source, like Vietnam?
The welfare hotel on Wilson is still there, if it is the building I am thinking of. Based on what I know of apartment hotels I’m guessing it must be crazy in there. If Uptown continues on the upswing I have to imagine the welfare hotel’s days are numbered.
Uptown still has shady elements to be sure. But it is pretty close to night and day compared with twenty years ago. There were no trendy bars and twenty-something recent college grads walking around back then.
Somewhere around ‘87 I took photos of this place. They can now be found at the Theatre Historical Society archive in Elmhurst, IL.
Sure enough, if you look at Google Maps you can see where it ran up to Armitage. I wonder when and why they decided to build the neighborhood over it.