AFI Silver Theatre

8633 Colesville Road,
Silver Spring, MD 20910

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HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 24, 2007 at 5:27 pm

I forgot to note that this was the 1st time I was inside this theater. Lived in DC a few years in mid-1980’s and saw the exterior of closed Silver. Now in my hometown (Philly) and spent F-Sa-Su in DC.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 24, 2007 at 5:24 pm

yes, the manager did say the curtain will be repaired.

Historic Auditorium ran a THX trailer, or whatever it is called. Mazza Gallerie on Sunday didn’t. I was almost under impression that nobody pays for THX certification anymore? AFI still does?

When I walked into both auditoriums 2 & 3, the curtain was totally closed pre-film. I only stayed for a minute. Thank you, and AFI for arranging for such great film projection and sound. The overall presentation really is world class.

I’ve only seen you in person, a few years ago, at the Uptown, chatting with you in the projection booth.

sguttag
sguttag on December 24, 2007 at 5:15 pm

Well, the light should have been on the money that night! I just changed the lamps on Friday! They were set to SMPTE spec and balanced (all three auditoriums). FWIW, on Friday, the projectionist in the Historic was using DTS for digital sound though it can run all three digitals.

Yes, it is true that the curtain in the Historic theatre is currently broken but don’t expect it to stay that way for too much longer.

In theatre #2, you might have caught me when I was doing some tests between shows and hence the open curtain…if you saw any target film running, It was definately me. Also, if there is a format change between shows (like from 1.37 for Its A Wonderful Life to 1.85 for A Christmas Story, they will roll both machines to verify good frame/focus for that feature, BEFORE they seat the audience. Since the AFI has studio grade Kinoton projectors, they can rock/roll without film damage and without the need to rethread once set.

Steve

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 24, 2007 at 2:20 pm

Friday, December 21, I saw at 5 PM, Juno in the historic auditorium. After buying my ticket in the new building, I was able to walk into the historic Art Moderne lobby.

I sat in the last row, with the tables that JordarMovieFan sits to eat his stuffed pretzels. The lady next to me had a soft pretzel (not stuffed) and a cup of beer.

Movie projection & digital surround sound were excellent.

After Juno was over, the other movies had not started, so I briefly walked into the newer auditoriums. Juno was shown without any curtain being present, so I presumed curtain only used for special presentations? But, no, curtains were closed in the newer auditoriums! I asked, and the manager told me historic auditorium’s curtain has been broken at least a month, a chain broken.

I’d rather see a 70mm epic at the Uptown, with its huge Cinerama sized screen! However, overall, the AFI Silver is a great moviehouse with an excellent program of films.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 20, 2007 at 9:03 am

I just telephoned the AFI Silver office number. The woman who answered said “we do not give out that information” as to which movie will play in which screen this weekend!! it will depend on ticket sales. Best she could do was speculate Juno would not be in the 75 seat auditorium. Could not tell me at all whether they plan Its a Wonderful Life or Juno in the historic main auditorium. She said if she was attending herself, she wouldn’t know.

grade of “F” to AFI Silver for attitude.

Anyone want to speculate whehter Juno or Its a Wonderful Life will b in the historic auditorium? 3rd movie is No Country for Old Men. Its a Wonderful Life is splitting a screen with other classics.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 20, 2007 at 8:09 am

Screen sizes have been added to the Introduction. Steve Guttag’s comments about Auditorium 2 seem to be verified by the screen size and by the photos on the theater’s website.

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on December 19, 2007 at 8:58 pm

I should add that because of this pretzel treat, its one of the few movie houses I’d ever buy concession stand anything because of the exhorbitant prices. Either I try to eat before the show or try to sneak it in.

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on December 19, 2007 at 8:55 pm

Howard,

They used to have these delicous jalapeno cream cheese stuffed pretzels that were sooo good. If made right, its the perfect balance of crusty shell, the kosher salt and melting hot but not volcanic hot cheese with the right amount of jalapeno zing that’s, oh so yummy! The last time I was there..probably when they had 2001 a year ago, they were out of that, actually most of their snacked goods were GONE except for popcorn, soda and alcohol. I was so disappointed!

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 19, 2007 at 8:45 pm

JodarMovieFan, though I do photo cinemas, I’ve haven’t been, so these aren’t mine. I found them on flickr and thought people would appreciate them.
Main auditorium screen is 40 feet wide for a scope film. That’s not Cinerama sized like the DC Uptown, but it isn’t small.
As to food, I love soft pretzels, hard pretzels, but not sure if pretzels should get stuffed!

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on December 19, 2007 at 8:37 pm

Nice photos, Howard. The last set is good in that you capture some of the better seats in the back that are spread out and not congested. If I’m snacking on something like their hot stuffed pretzels, I like the snack tables adjacent to the seats in the back. My friends and I snuck in sandwiches and soup from the Panera, next door, and had a good time with our movie!

On the other hand, the pictures point out the rather smallish screen. Small in comparison to some of the better single houses of yesteryear, sadly gone forever. I do wish that in ‘08, they have more 70mm other than Lawrence and 2001.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on December 19, 2007 at 6:04 pm

I meant to post 2 different photos of the historic auditorium, both facing the screen.Here’s the other one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blainepen/344898096/

sguttag
sguttag on August 3, 2007 at 8:21 pm

You are correct in that it used to seat more than 400. In fact I want to say capacity was 982 or 983 when I was the projectionist there in 1981. It was larger than the Bethesda up the street (MD 410…aka East-West Hwy) that only had 949 (as a conventional movie theatre).

SG

rlvjr
rlvjr on August 2, 2007 at 8:54 pm

The historic SILVER theater is much bigger than 400 seats. The SILVER was bigger than the AVALON by a good 30%. Although AFI reduced the seating when they renovated, during my 1,000+ visits here when Warner’s owned it, the capacity was approx. 1,000 seats. Later, under KB ownership, it was sometimes used for first runs — because of its size and location. For example, when the KB Cinema was swarmed with people wanting to see THE EXORCIST, KB ordered another print and played it at the Silver.

sguttag
sguttag on July 4, 2007 at 6:19 am

With the Avalon, the theatre sizes are dramatically different and there are only two of them. The odds that a film might need to move about during the day is very small. It is easy for them to post what film is in what theatre.

At the AFI, that is not the case. Theatre 2 is 200 seats and not that small. Theatre 3 is notably smaller with only 75 seats. Theatre 1, despite being physically large is only 400 seats.

While all theatres can play silent movies at the proper speed, only theatre #1 has an organ permanently set up. So it is possible that a silent film will play part of the day in theatre #1 and the film with the most patrons will get bumped to theatre #2…but it might move back to theatre #1 after the “event” if business warrants. They are going to try and play the busiest movie in theatre #1 (Historic) unless theatre #1 has some capability that the other theatres don’t have (organ, 70mm or a more substantial stage)

SG

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on June 25, 2007 at 2:34 pm

I agree totally that on website, AFI should identify which film is in the historic auditorium!!

As to the Avalon, under various management over the years, that theater has always specified Avalon 1 (the beautiful huge downstairs auditorium) or Avalon 2 (upstairs). I'v seen a movie upstairs since the nonprofit community tookover, and it isn’t inappropriate for an arthouse film. It isn’t a huge auditorium or screen, but it has been refurbished as comfortable as possible. I’d rather see a movie upstairs any day than in NYC’s Lincoln Plaza.

rlvjr
rlvjr on June 25, 2007 at 1:42 pm

Obviously most people using this website are interested in HISTORIC theatres. Whether “broom closets” is a fair description of the two new auditoriums sidesteps the point that AFI magnagement willfully does nothing to offer the customer a choice —– nothing to let us know which film is in the historic theatre, which is in the closet. How difficult is it to make such information available by phone? I want the AFI to be up front with customers as to what’s playing where.

In the nearby historic AVALON THEATRE, you can go to their website on any given day, or prior day, to find out what film is in the historic theatre and which is in the broom closet upstairs —– although they call the broom closet Avalon #2, that’s OK. The AFI are control freaks and would never do anything so helpful or honest.

rlvjr
rlvjr on June 25, 2007 at 1:42 pm

Obviously most people using this website are interested in HISTORIC theatres. Whether “broom closets” is a fair description of the two new auditoriums sidesteps the point that AFI magnagement willfully does nothing to offer the customer a choice —– nothing to let us know which film is in the historic theatre, which is in the closet. How difficult is it to make such information available by phone? I want the AFI to be up front with customers as to what’s playing where.

In the nearby historic AVALON THEATRE, you can go to their website on any given day, or prior day, to find out what film is in the historic theatre and which is in the broom closet upstairs —– although they call the broom closet Avalon #2, that’s OK. The AFI are control freaks and would never do anything so helpful or honest.

sguttag
sguttag on February 24, 2007 at 1:39 am

Jodar,

Are you saying the whole THX trailer shakes or just before the beginning or end of the trailer?

Film trailers are spliced so while that taped piece of film is in the gate (less than 1 second), the picture will have a brief, sudden single “hop” when the tape hits the intermittent sprocket…ALL intermittent based projectors will do this. The extra thickness due to the tape will have the intermittent pull slightly more film which makes the image go slightly higher on the screen and then when the taped portion passes (it is about one frame in duration or 4-6 perfs of film, depending on tape size…the AFI runs 4-perf or 19mm wide tape to minimize this), the image returns to its normall height so this single Up, then down motion will make a single “hop.” It is slightly more noticable on the machines the AFI uses (Kinoton “E” series projectors) since the intermittent is a 32-tooth sprocket instead of the more traditional 16-tooth sprocket of a mechanical intermittent. The splice is in contact with the intermittent about twice as long.

If you are referring to the whole preview being shaky then that is the fault of the print itself and will probably vary from preview to preview.

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on February 23, 2007 at 4:24 pm

The ‘shake’ that I speak of is when they play any trailer (film) especially the THX sound one, that usually precedes the main attraction. Since they didn’t play it for 2001, there wasn’t any shake.

I am in totally agreement with you about the other theaters here. I’ll take the AFI ‘broom closets’ over anything that their neighbor Consilidated has (and believe me they aren’t as good) or the nearby Regal Rockville 13, or the shoebox AMC White Flint 5 anytime anyday. Though to be perfectly honest, I’ve never watched a movie in the smallest AFI auditorium (lucky me).

I wish the AFI would play other 70mm movies than this film and “Lawrence of Arabia.” With their pull and industry contacts and affiliation, they should be able to do better for us east coast moviefans. We’re treated like step children here! And, yes, I’ve written to them to no avail. The last time they played “West Side Story,” “Sound of Music” and “Mary Poppins”(?) they were all in 35mm.

sguttag
sguttag on February 23, 2007 at 12:38 pm

Man again I don’t know how anyone could consider the the 200-seat or the 75-seat theatres “Broom Closets.” That is just plain silly. Neither theatre is that small and their screens are quite large. The 200-seat’s screen is almost the same size as the Historic’s. Acoustically it is far superior. The Historic theatre is certainly pretty and a treat to see a movie in but technically it is not as good as theatre #2. #3 almost has an IMAX feel due to its large screen when running classic films in the 1.37 ratio.

As to the print of 2001:A Space Odyssey that was just shown…it definately has been “previously enjoyed!” There are some scenes when it looked just stunning and other where the wear and tear were not so gentle. Track 6 (surrounds) did suffer from a ticking by a previous user of the film (most likely a stuck piece of charged oxide on a roller zapping the track on each revolution (the speed was about right for that…quite fast). This film did have an excellent mix and the AFI’s sound system did deliver on all 6-tracks with wonderful panned dialog that I wish modern day mixers to do.

I am curious as the the shake that Jodar noted preceeding reel changes. The AFI does run changeovers so it is possible that if the prints were old, that previous users put splices in that would “telegraph” the reel change (the ends of reels tend to get beaten up by poor film handlers).

Steve

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on February 21, 2007 at 8:26 am

I happened to catch “2001: A Space Odyssey” this past Saturday to an almost sold out crowd of almost 400 that started a little late. The only vacant seats I could see were in the very first row. Management was kind enough to start the line and keep the crowd indoors and snake them around the lobby.

The presentation, itself, was very professional as they closed the curtain during the overture dimming the house lights. They also had the intermission with music..well, that 60s shreiking piece they played during the Stargate Corridor sequence. A Manager introduced the show and talked up AFI membership, but like in previous intros, they do so with the enthusiasm of visiting a proctologist. Maybe it was me since I sat in the very last row, but his voice ran fast and over the speel about joining AFI..blah blah blah. He made no mention about this particular movie as part of Kubrick’s body of work and how/why it is considered one of the best movies of all time. Or, at least explain the fact that the movie was in 70mm and how it is different from regular 35mm presentations. I say this since there were a lot of younger people (some probably no older than 6) in the audience, who probably have never seen a 70mm projected film in their lives.

The film had some scratches at the intro and at the start of the “To the Infinite and Beyond” sequence. Now, the close up of the bioreadouts of the crew before Hal killed them, looked grainy and dull to me. It made me wonder if this was a true 70mm print, or blow up, or 35mm? I suspect this print has been in circulation for awhile probably since the ‘01 rerelease. The soundtrack had an annoying tapping noise during Bowman’s rescue of Poole and proceeded up through the end of Hal’s disconnection. Other than that, the sound was full and encompassing. They played no trailers, whatsoever, not even the usual THX sound one.

On Sunday, 2-19, I was among over 400 attendees, to celebrate a birthday for Merv Conn (87), a local and very popular Accordionist, with some short films and live performances. This was a real treat as they showed some old films that showed what was Glen Echo Park and the old Trolleys that ran up through 1962…way, way before I was even born! I never knew Silver Spring had them but it was fascinating to see where they ran even though most of the tracks cannot be seen on the roads today. The live music was terrific that accompanied the silent color films. The 50 min HD video tribute to Merv Conn was played to the delight of the audiences, but I think that the director edited his interviews of his subject in a way that made him look like a buffoon. The man is 87 years old for pete’s sake and its a given that he’s going to be a little slow and hard of hearing!

All-in-all, its great to have a venue like the Silver to celebrate the arts both on film and live! Bravo!

JodarMovieFan
JodarMovieFan on February 13, 2007 at 12:31 pm

AFI will be showing “2001: A Space Odyssey” as part of its Kubrick retrospective in glorious 70mm this weekend, 2/16-18/2007. It should be showin in the historic auditorium. Though the screen is not as wide, nor the cinematic experience as engulfing as the Uptown, it will be great to see it in widescreen again.

JohnMessick
JohnMessick on February 5, 2007 at 1:37 pm

I was planning on making a trip down from Harrisburg Pennsylvania. If not being able to see a movie in the original auditorium and see the beautiful lobby. I will not attend. Thank you rivjr for saving me a trip.

rlvjr
rlvjr on February 5, 2007 at 12:30 pm

I drove 26 miles roundtrip to see a movie at my restored former neighborhood theatre, the SILVER; but turned around and went home. There is a big, BIG difference between seeing a picture in the real SILVER vs. one of their two broom closet theaters. Going to a matinee, first of all the lobby is closed and you enter through the side door. I would have chosen whichever film was in the big theatre only to be told “neither.”

I did’t need to travel across town to see a movie in their broom closet. Information as to which, if any, film is in the original theatre is ONLY available by showing up and asking. Such information is NOT available in the paper, NOT on the internet, NOT by telepone. This is in keeping with their liberal management. Customers, you see, ought not have a choice. Where they see a movie ought be in the hands of their liberal superiors; persons who know what’s best for us. My advice is to stay away from the SILVER until those in charge there get their heads straight. Do not meanwhile hold your breath.