Boyd Theatre

1908-18 Chestnut Street,
Philadelphia, PA 19103

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HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on May 1, 2006 at 8:48 am

A “Mary” wrote that “My mother passed away a couple of years ago, and last week my dad gave me the trunk she used to store all her special treasures. In going through it tonight, I found a ticket stub for seat U 101, Good Only Wed. 8:40 P.M. June 16, 1954 at the Boyd Theater, Orchestra, National Ticket Company. The seat cost $2.60 and is torn so I can’t tell what the show was. Is there anyplace I can get this information?”

I answered “This is Cinerama” which ran for one or two years at the Boyd? Her ticket price works out in inflation adjusted dollars to $17 or $18 today. Were road show features in the 1950’s & 1960’s also just as expensive?

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on April 30, 2006 at 10:09 am

At the Loews Jersey on Friday eve, volunteer usher Myron told me that in early 1968 he saw GWTW in a “pan and scan” 70 mm version on the Cinerama screen at the Boyd. It is possible his recollection is confused with the Randolph?

TheaterBuff1
TheaterBuff1 on April 18, 2006 at 10:41 pm

A controversy is fast unfurling in the state of Pennsylvania that I have no doubt will detrimentally impact theater restorations all throughout the state, while I believe the Boyd Theatre is no exception. It all has to do with gambling that was recently legalized in this state. Among the first places in Pennsylvania that is being targeted with a casino proposal — despite overwhelming community opposition — is Gettysburg, site of the historic battlefield, and also where the Majestic Theatre was just recently restored to its former glory. In response to this I have created a special Cinema Treasures webpage which can be reached through the following link: http://cinematreasures.org/news/14515_0_1_0_M/ where I invite you all to discuss this issue in greater depth in terms of how it will impact our state’s movie theaters.

Meantime, action is currently underway to bring five casinos to Philadelphia where the Boyd Theatre is located. So it’s not like the Boyd is fully out of the loop on this.

For right now, at least to the best of my knowledge, no consideration whatsoever on the part of those who favor gambling in Pennsylvania is being given to what impact it will have on this states movie theaters and those currently in the process of being restored.

Michael R. Rambo Jr.
Michael R. Rambo Jr. on April 13, 2006 at 1:43 pm

Quick question: Does anyone know when “On a Clear Day You Can See Forever” was released to the Boyd Theatre? I think it was around December 1970.

veyoung52
veyoung52 on April 13, 2006 at 4:32 am

Still not sure about the GWTW run in 70mm in 1975. At that time I lived at 2101 Chestnut St – 2 blks from the Boyd – and passed it every day. I might be wrong, tho. BTW, Im sure you know that GWTW originally premiered at the Boyd (and simultaneously at the Earle) in 1939. As far as a earlier post noted about screen size..,go to the rec.arts.movies.tech group…there are a number of articles about D-150 lenses (and other high-precision short-focal length lenses) still available.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on April 13, 2006 at 4:25 am

I don’t know. GWTW was often reissued, so if you are positive, you are probably correct. In 1971 the Boyd’s Cinerama screen was taken down, but 70 mm projection was used.

Many of the movie theaters on this site in NYC, DC, and elsewhere, have a list of movies that played, from newspapers. The list seems to be from one gentleman. I’d love such a list to be posted on this site, of all movies that played at the Boyd, and the dates they played!

Also, the email address HowardB isn’t me, that’s another correspondent.

Mikeoaklandpark
Mikeoaklandpark on April 13, 2006 at 4:00 am

Veyoung
I saw GWTW at the Randolph in 68 on the great cinerama screen even though it was in 70mm. I am positive I saw GWTW at the SamEric in 75 in 70mm. HOward will u verify that .
Mike

TheaterBuff1
TheaterBuff1 on April 12, 2006 at 11:23 pm

Howard Haas is right on target when he says that uniquely large screens can only work with certain cinema formats geared specifically for this purpose. Which, of course, is not all movies. While it is not clear as of yet to what degree the advent of digital will revolutionize this. Certain films, because of their nature, and regardless of resolution, it would seem rather out of place to see on an unusually large screen, while with others an unusually large screen is an absolute must. But when we’re talking about the Boyd, which is Philadelphia’s last, and one and only, movie palace, it’s understood that when movies are shown there it’s not just to be any movie. Meaning that when movies are exhibited there it should only be those specifically made to be seen on an unusually large screen — both in terms of resolution and their very nature. Which is why I feel the Boyd’s adapting the LeFrak model remains a very good idea, if and when it can be done.

As for “Philly not being a movie city,” that at best can only be summed up as a statement of the moment. For despite all and any stereotypes, this city is always constantly in a state of change. And the fact that this city is dotted all throughout with movie theaters of the past — currently being used for other purposes — lays testimony to the fact that its not being a movie city wasn’t always the case. And only a total fool would try to predict that it will never become a movie city again. At the present moment Philadelphia is swept up in all sorts of varying cross-currents, with a small but perhaps growing number coming to it saying, “Hey, where are the movie theaters?” And if the demand for this grows strong enough, there will be movie theaters all throughout this city once more I can fully assure you. And what will spur that demand will be movie theaters run in the right way. Which is why I’m all eager to see the Boyd restored in the best possible way.

To the degree that it aspires to be like it was when it was at its absolute height — which was when it was in its Boyd days — I have no doubt it will be very successful. On the other hand, if it attempts to replicate the Sameric era, history will just repeat itself. The Boyd by its very nature, special location and so on, demands to be a premiere theater. And at this moment there’s no other theater anywhere in this city, in its surrounding suburbs, or even in this entire tri-state area for that matter, that can claim that same stature. And you can’t just go ahead and build something like that fresh and new out in King of Prussia or wherever. Anything such as that would only be makeshift and temporary while awaiting the Boyd to make its big comeback.

Michael R. Rambo Jr.
Michael R. Rambo Jr. on April 12, 2006 at 10:53 pm

hdtv267, that was just my own opinion of whjat the “world class” theatres in the Philadelphia area are today.

raymondgordonsears
raymondgordonsears on April 12, 2006 at 4:54 pm

The problem today is lack of showmanship. Today its get you in and get you out. How many shows can we get in a day. As a manager your job was many things not just walking around. First check the marquee, stand back and look at the front of your theatre. Next the box ofice, lobby, candy stand (snack bar) and the rest rooms. Go to the booth and check equipment. When the doors open check the auditorium (lights, music, seats, screen. When the show starts sit or stand in the back and check sound, picture. Take pride in your theatre. Surround yourself with good help. Hire people that want to work in the theatre because they like the theatre not because they want to watch free movies. I could go on and on but I’m dreaming because those days are gone. Today there is No Showmanship, just get them in and get them out.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on April 12, 2006 at 4:23 pm

The Boyd didn’t have live shows because it opened with Paramount’s 1st talkie. Talkies being ten times more popular than silents, so they didn’t need stage shows to help draw in patrons. The Boyd also didn’t have a huge stage. Most of downtown Philly’s stage presentation movie palaces were on Market Street, and they had much larger stages.

The Friends of the Boyd do plan 70 mm classics. We can’t do 3 strip Cinerama do to the need for a wider screen, and 3 projector booths on the orchestra level. We have said since we organized in 2002 that film classics, film festivals, and movie premieres can, and should, be held at the Boyd. For the theater to survive, and to entertain, musicals and concerts will be presented by the theater’s new owner. Musicals and concerts will be a great reuse of the Boyd. Movies are an art form, and we will strive to present them as discussed above.

The Bridge deserves its feature in the Cinema Treasures book, and is world class for what it is.

yvgtspike
yvgtspike on April 12, 2006 at 3:25 pm

I agree that the Bridge is a great theatre. The staff is good and the presentation of the movie have always been perfect. I look at this theatre to see a “big"movie. They have only one theatre in this market, so they have a better chance of doing it right. Regal/UA have several theatres, and some are the old Eric. I go to the Grant Ave. and I seen everything that can go wrong with showing a movie happened. Bad spicing, a reel change resulting in bad sound, Nardia sounded like it was dragging throughout the whole movie, projector buld going out etc. I would never say Neshaminy is world class theatre. It’s good, I do not hestitate to go see a movie there. The UA at Riverview was always consider to be a "showcase theatre”. This is from their mouths when they talked about their theatres. Riverview and the KofP are the ones that they are going to put the best equipment in. I am assuming this based on pass history and news stories about U/A. Regal is still U/A, the only ones that are not are the ones that Regal built.

But Phiily theatres have always been OK and it’s shame for a city of this size.

I use to see about 100 movies a year in both the center city theatres and the ones in the burbs. I still see quite of few movies. No matter what it still like going to the movies. Seeing a movie in an old theatre is an experience. I hope that the mangement of the Boyd remember the experience of seeing a movie in the future of this once great movie theatre.

Cinedelphia
Cinedelphia on April 12, 2006 at 7:59 am

Regarding the size of the screen at the Boyd after restoration-
As long as the new screen fills the arch, it will be at minimum, more than adequite; with state of the art sound and projection it has the potential to be breathtaking. As far as I can see based upon the many knowledgable posts on this site, the screen in front of the arch was installed for Cinerama. A screen that size, unless being used for large format projection (Cinerama, 70mm, etc)would have to be masked down for other formats (including 35mm scope) or the projection might appear grainy blown up to that extreme size and ratio. I have seen 70mm blow-ups presented at the Boyd on the flat
screen (Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom, Empire Strike Back)and the screen size was fine, however the projection and sound were not
always up to high standards. I hope the restored Boyd can bring back those high standards of presentation we saw in days gone by.

RobertR
RobertR on April 12, 2006 at 5:27 am

Is such nastiness necessary because someone has an opinion?

veyoung52
veyoung52 on April 12, 2006 at 2:38 am

“Ben Hur” opened 11/24/59…closed Jan or Feb 1961, followed by “Exodus” and then (in approximate order) “Judgment at Nuremburg”, “King of Kings,” and “La Dolce Vita”. Vince

Michael R. Rambo Jr.
Michael R. Rambo Jr. on April 12, 2006 at 12:56 am

Does anyone know when Ben Hur last showing was at the Stanley Warner’s Boyd Theatre, during its initial run, and what movie replaced Ben Hur?

The same thing also for Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back and when Empire Strikes Back left the Sameric Theatre?

Michael R. Rambo Jr.
Michael R. Rambo Jr. on April 12, 2006 at 12:51 am

Yvgtspike, The world class theatres that we have in the Philadelphia area now are:

AMC Neshaminy 24 Theatre, in Bensalem
REG King of Prussia Stadium 16 and IMAX Theatre, in King of Prussia
REG Marketplace Stadium 24 Theatre, in Oaks
National Amusements The Bridge 6: Cinema De Lux

These theatres are to today’s generation that the RKO Stanley Warner’s Boyd, RKO Stanley Warner’s Stanley Theatre, Milgram’s Fox Theatre and Stanley Warner’s Mastbaum Theatre were to those who grew up in the 1950’s and 1960’s, and the Sameric Theatre, the William Goldman’s/Budco/AMC Midtown Twin Theatre to those who grew up in the 1970’s and 1980’s

Regal Entertainment Group is the sucessor to United Artists Theatres and Eric Theatres, and AMC Theatres is the sucessor to Budco Theatres, General Cinema Theatres, William Goldman Theatres, and Loews Cineplex Entertainment Theatres (doing business in Philadelphia as RKO Stanley Warner Theatres, Stanley Warner Theatres and Stanley Company of America from eratly 1900’s to 1977.

yvgtspike
yvgtspike on April 11, 2006 at 3:16 pm

Sorry to say Philly is not a movie city. Look at the exhibitors that we had over the last several decades. Budco and porn, Eric with the run down theatres. Even UA has no respect for Philly. Is UA at Riverview a world class theatre? I saw Shriek there and the vocies were coming from all speakers, the theatre was dirty and seats were either rip or broken (and it is not a center city theatre!). If wasn’t for the Ritz, we wouldn’t have any good theatre, but these theates do not show popular Hollywood movies. We had some decent theatres in center city over the years, but if recent history hold true can the Boyd present big picture movies, with possible reissues of older movies, like the Zigfeld in NY. I think of NY for a big movie first, then I see it in Phiily. Why see a Star Wars type movie, with bad picture, poor sound or bad reel changes. Most of the area theatres I saw movies at over the years have been hit or miss.

TheaterBuff1
TheaterBuff1 on April 5, 2006 at 11:44 pm

In 1928 movies weren’t far enough along yet for it to make sense for the Boyd to be a movie palace exclusively. So it had to be able to provide for live entertainment as well. I’m just surprised it didn’t do more live entertainment during that earliest stretch, for it is quite amazing to learn that its orchestra pit was possibly used only once. On the other hand I presume that exhibiting movies as they progressed further was the theater’s ultimate aim from the onset, and it did arise to meet that challenge very well in the years that followed.

BTW, at what point do we begin placing motion picture exhibition in the category of “legit theater”? Wasn’t that mile stone reached when Ben Hur premiered there in ‘59? For live performances are very nice to be sure. BUT, when it comes to presenting fiery sea battles and breathtaking, edge-of-the-seat chariot races in the absolutely best possible way, live stage presentations, er, are a bit limited. When it comes to putting across material such as that, or the burning of Atlanta, or the dramatic sinking of the Titanic, or the raiding of Europe by the Mongel hordes, or the parting of the Red Sea, or the Martians invading our planet in flying saucers, or Godzilla terrorizing Tokyo or what have you, clearly motion pictures are the far higher art form. It would be totally laughable to try to put such material across through live performances. And to be sure, those whose specialty is live performances have every good reason to feel totally jealous. But that’s not any of us, is it? Which is why I say becoming a world class movie theater once more is the Boyd’s highest calling. That Philadelphia needs. The rest we already have plenty of.

Michael R. Rambo Jr.
Michael R. Rambo Jr. on April 5, 2006 at 9:44 pm

The orchestra pit was used, I believe, only once, and that was back in 1928, when the Boyd Theatre was opened by Alexander Boyd.

yvgtspike
yvgtspike on April 5, 2006 at 2:56 pm

With all this talk of movies at The Boyd, was it ever used as a legit theatre? It does have a stage, orchestra pit and dressing rooms. All the pictures show it as a movie theatre.

TheaterBuff1
TheaterBuff1 on April 4, 2006 at 8:36 pm

The great information that veyoung puts forth above regarding the screen at the NY Museum of Natural History Lefrak Auditorium, etc., certainly takes most if not all the guesswork out of what the Boyd Theatre can and should do so as to have the best of both worlds, that is, to become a great venue to see live performances, as well as its re-becoming the best movie theater in the tri-state area to see epics at their absolute best.

donybrx
donybrx on April 4, 2006 at 1:46 pm

I cannot wait to attend a performance at the BOYD when it re-opens. What a satisfying occaasion to have this old palace spared!

And then, the next challenge is to re-open thePhiladelphia Metropolitan Opera House (constructed by Oscar Hammerstein in the 20’s, in a hurry, a lavish 4,000 seat house…..)up at North Broad and Poplar Steets……

veyoung52
veyoung52 on April 4, 2006 at 5:03 am

Mike, many of us confuse the Boyd (aka SamEric) with the Randolph, usually because at one time both theatres presented 70mm Cinerama (advertised as such) or 70mm presentations on most of the full screen. The curved Cinerama screen was removed from the Boyd in December of 1971. A curved screen has not been used at that venue since then. “Man of La Mancha” was a 1972 release, a full year after the curved screen’s removal. You say “…years later when I went back and saw GWTW.” AFAIK, GWTW had no 70m engagements in the Philadelphia area during the 1970s. The deep-curve screen that was in place at the Boyd/SamEric until 12/71 was actually not the original Cinerama screen, though it was much larger. This particular screen was installed in August 1962 for the run of the Loews-Cinerama features, the original Cinerama screen having been dismantled in the Fall of 1959 after its original installation in October of 1953.