Ziegfeld Theatre

141 W. 54th Street,
New York, NY 10019

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ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 15, 2006 at 12:31 am

Ed:

You have the “tongue of Cicero,” I can only aspire to be as articulate and inspirational as you, and I certainly hope that when the Classics return, I hear some introductions that you personally make to some of the screenings. Hell, all of us should be introducing these films. “Days of Heaven”-a title I didn’t even think of. I just watched “Pretty Baby” with Brooke Shields-I must have had the DVD for a year and for some reason watched it tonight. I had never seen this film before. A gorgeous, evocative work of art; I have an 80-inch screen with a front projection system-but it ain’t the Ziegfeld!!!

BRAVO

Gary

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on April 14, 2006 at 10:44 pm

Gary… You inspired me. I just sent this comment to Craig on the Cleariew site and even dropped your name.

“Just wanted to drop a line to Craig. I attended a number screenings during the recent Classics series and I’ve already completed the survey above about my excellent experiences during the run (and on other first run occasions as well). I just wanted to thank you again for the terrific series and for the promise of more yet to come in the Fall. In the meanwhile, I hope to support the theater with its coming run of "Mission Impossible III” and always look forward to an opportunity to enjoy a film on the Ziegfeld’s big screen.

If I might suggest a title for a future Classics presentation… I saw in last Sunday’s Times that the Film Forum was running a brand new 35mm print of Terrence Malick’s beautiful 1978 film “Days of Heaven”. I refuse to do this painterly masterpiece the injustice of watching it in the Film Forum’s cramped quarters, but would love to see it spalshed across the 50 foot screen at the Ziegfeld.

I post regularly at the Cinema Treasures site and I know you peruse those comments and appreciate our patronage and suggestions. We certainly appreciate your listening to what we have to say. I’m aware one of our contributors – Gary – provided you with a lengthy list of suggestions and I’m sure he’s been in your ear a lot with various praise and criticisms. I just wanted to take the time – now that I’m in Classics withdrawal – to once again thank you for a wonderful 6 weeks of programming. I hope that we can see more 70mm and I hope we can get closer to the kind of presentation and showmanship that was intended for some of these roadshow era films (such as proper lighting and curtain cues for overture and intermission and a true intermission break where intended). I know you guys strive to bring us the best show possible and it was evident that many kinks were worked out as the series progressed. The kind of showmanship that these films demand is an art that has been greatly lost not only on the part of exhibitors over the years, but, sadly, on the part of the audience as well – in the form of lowered expectations and the general acceptance of mediocrity. How wonderful it would be if you could bring that level of showmanship back to your flagship theater. You folks are its curators and the Ziegfeld is your museum. We look to you to remind those of us who remember (and show those who know no better) what a truly grand and magical experience it once was to attend a Broadway roadshow engagement.

Thanks for your time."

JSA
JSA on April 14, 2006 at 9:38 pm

Peter: I appreciate your response. Thank you! We agree, it is indeed a rare opportunity. I am going to skip work that day, certainly don’t want to miss it! If you wish, I’ll let you know how it turns out.

Regards,
JSA

therock1
therock1 on April 14, 2006 at 1:04 pm

Hi Everyone,

It’s been a while since I posted anything here on the site. But, I wanted to Thank You all for making The Hollywood Classics a nice success at The Ziegfeld.

Although I can not get into any specifics at this time, I can assure you that The Classics will be back at The Ziegfeld sometime in the fall!

This could not have been done without all of your nice comments and suggestions, so please keep them coming!

As soon as I know any details, you will be the first to know.

Thanks again
Craig

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on April 14, 2006 at 12:25 pm

JSA – the word on the 80 Days print is that it is slightly faded in color, but otherwise in good shape. Regardless, it’s the rarity of seeing the 30fps version that makes the showing important. I believe it’s cmoing from a film archive as Warner Bros. no longer has any prints of the film – 35mm or 70mm. The festival sounds great, wish I were near LA and could go!

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 14, 2006 at 2:11 am

Jeff:

We’re in agreement. I can’t tell you how many voice mails I left for Craig, with no reply either. I just believe in perseverance. Today, I needed to see a foot doctor whose appointment schedule was totally booked. The only other option offered was an appointment in two weeks. I asked if my name and phone number could be held in case of a cancellation (something I do in my office), I was told absolutely NO! Just keep calling his office from 8 AM on to see if a cancellation was called in. However ridiculous this was to me, I had no other options. I called every half hour from 8AM on. By 1PM, I was told that there was a cancellation at 3 PM. My toe was taken care of and I am no longer in pain. I complained (nicely) to the doctor about his office policy and he told me that his office staff is so burdened with insurance nonsense and paperwork that unfortunately, requests like mine cannot be accommodated.

At my first classics visit, “West Side Story,” I believe, I was told that the building was landmarked by one of the staff. I called the NYC Landmarks Preservation Board to check this out. It is not landmarked. And even if it was landmarked, it could have the same fate as the Astor Plaza. The beautiful Bowery Savings Bank on 42 St. is now Cipriani’s, a beautiful catering hall.

All of which means that I am not willing to settle for “out of sync” prints like “Lawrence” either. To me, keeping an ongoing Classics program going in the midst of drivel like Scary Movie 4 is first priority. By the end of the “Lawrence” run, the comments here were much better. I think we can all work towards making the whole program (if it continues) much better.

I’m sure that Craig has to answer to the “suits” at Clearview and the “Bottom Line.” So, send ten more e-mails. Remember what Tim Robbins had to do in “Shawshank” to get his library.

We all want the same thing-the best Ziegfeld experience imaginable.
This is all going to take work until we can all buy the place and run it ourselves.

Thanks,

Gary

JSA
JSA on April 14, 2006 at 1:02 am

Peter:

To the best of your knowledge, how good is that “Around the World” print? Until I read the Egyptian schedule at the in70mm website, I was not aware that a Todd-AO print was in existence!

Regards,

JSA

PeterApruzzese
PeterApruzzese on April 14, 2006 at 12:14 am

The Ziegfeld would need to book those 70mm films from the studios, the Egyptian Theatre isn’t a distributor. The Around the World is not a new or restored print, the other two mentioned are new prints. Very doubtful that Warner, Fox, Goldwyn and the archives involved would let the films go to a platter house such as the Ziegfeld. If the Ziegfeld re-enabled their reel-to-reel system and demonstrated that they could handle the films properly, then they might consider it.

JeffS
JeffS on April 13, 2006 at 11:57 pm

“Speak your mind-HE WANTS INPUT!!”

To a point… Remember how I was extreamly critical of the LOA issues? Very vocal?

Well, I eventually sent an email with my input/thanks/criticism/suggestions. No reply. Eh…

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 13, 2006 at 11:46 pm

Andreco:

Terrific idea—this is exactly what I’m talking about when I suggest sending your suggestions to Craig at Clearview:
Craig is head of marketing at Clearview and the whole driving force behind the Classics series. Speak your mind-HE WANTS INPUT!!

Thanks,

Gary

Andres
Andres on April 13, 2006 at 10:21 pm

I heard from a friend in LA that in May the Egyptian Theater will show Around the World, South Pacific and Patton in restored 70mm prints. Couldn’t Clearview make arrangements with the Egyptian management to have these prints shown at the Ziegfeld after the LA showing? Perhaps Clearview could establsh somekind of partnership and bring to NY all these wonderful film series that lucky Angelinos have the opportunity to see. Would appreciate comments and ideas.

BethLG
BethLG on April 13, 2006 at 9:38 pm

I just checked to see which movies will be playing at the Ziegfeld after Ice Age 2 and while I’d cough up the dollars for something I normally wouldn’t see at any other theater, I’m disappointed to learn that I have zero interest in seeing these two: Scary Movie 4 and Mission Impossible 3 (I will not support Tom Cruise in any way, the jerk). However, these films will probably do pretty well with ticket sales, which is a good thing for the theater.

BethLG
BethLG on April 13, 2006 at 9:25 pm

Gary, could you please send me an e-mail via the address on the main page of my website: www.geocities.com/crazyforcinema?

Thanks!

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 13, 2006 at 1:00 am

Since there has not been a post here in 5 whole days, I have to presume that many are suffering from “classics” withdrawal. So here’s the GOOD NEWS! I e-mailed the above list (including your suggestions for additions and deletions) to Craig at Clearview and received the following response TODAY:

“WOW, this is a great list Gary!

I really appreciate all your help with The Ziegfeld. I am sure that we
will bring The Classics back to The Ziegfeld soon and it is people like
you and the good folks at Cinema Treasures that will make this happen.

Thanks again
Craig"

I take no credit for this because I have drawn my inspiration and enthusiasm from this entire group right here. Again, I would ask you individually to take a moment and send your comments to Craig at Clearview. The concept of the Ziegfeld as a periodic Classics revival house is just an incredible thing to me. Let’s indeed make it happen.

Happy Holidays to All,

Gary

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 8, 2006 at 12:57 am

Beth:
Great suggestions, I especially like the Black & Whites—I think our whole group should be the programming committee. I would go to every one of these at the Ziegfeld. By weekend’s end, I’ll have about 100 films to send to Craig—so guys keep them coming. Ultimately, there is the issue of art vs. commerce, but so many of these ARE great and were successful and popular, that I think that Clearview could take a chance on quite a few. In other words, is there life after “Lawrence,” “Ben-Hur,” etc.?—ABSOLUTELY!

THANKS,

GARY

BethLG
BethLG on April 8, 2006 at 12:02 am

A couple of other films, probably less accesible but a lot of fun:
Any of BUSTER KEATON’s silent films – THE CAMERAMAN in particular would be a good film for a general crowd and a couple of scenes were shot on location in NYC. THE GENERAL is his most famous but a lot of his shorts would be great, too, like COPS, ONE WEEK, THE BOAT

The HAROLD LLOYD Trust just released a boxed set of the majority of Harold’s silent work. SAFETY LAST would be a good one. Several extended scenes from SPEEDY were shot on location in NYC and in Coney Island.

BethLG
BethLG on April 7, 2006 at 11:29 pm

Hey Gary, I thought of a few more films to suggest (my apologies for any repeats and lack of knowledge concerning rights availability, etc…):
A week of gangster films, featuring the the tough guys Edward G. Robinson, James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart
For Halloween, the EVIL DEAD trilogy (not classics in the literal sense, but it’ll draw out the Sam Raimi geeks for repeat viewings; they’re rabid about their Evil Dead). Also classics like THE HAUNTING, THE INNOCENTS, THE OLD DARK HOUSE, the Universal FRANKENSTEINs, DRACULA, THE MUMMY, etc. They could even show the silly Abbott and Costello MEET THE… Another fun A&C film concerning ghosts is THE TIME OF THEIR LIVES (my favorite A&C)
Films by Michael Powell, such as BLACK NARCISSUS, THE RED SHOES, A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH aka STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (these would look great on the Ziegfeld’s large screen)
Ealing films: THE LADYKILLERS, THE LAVENDER HILL MOB, THE MAN IN THE WHITE SUIT, etc.
Musicals: KISS ME KATE, GUYS AND DOLLS, Busby Berkeley films, almost any Fred and Ginger films – GAY DIVORCEE, TOP HAT, FOLLOW THE FLEET, SWINGTIME
More Hitchcock: NOTORIOUS, 39 STEPS, etc.

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 7, 2006 at 5:49 pm

Yeah, maybe it was better when the studios owned the theaters (pre-1947?) I don’t have an answer; the last time I went to my local multiplex on L.I. the ticket taker was too busy with her boyfriend to take my ticket. But on a brighter note, I am still impressed that the suits at Clearview took a gamble on a classics program, for two months!! I could use seeing Roger Rabbit tonight at the Ziegfeld!!!

Gary

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 7, 2006 at 5:49 pm

Yeah, maybe it was better when the studios owned the theaters (pre-1947?) I don’t have an answer; the last time I went to my local multiplex on L.I. the ticket taker was too busy with her boyfriend to take my ticket. But on a brighter note, I am still impressed that the suits at Clearview took a gamble on a classics program, for two months!! I could use seeing Roger Rabbit tonight at the Ziegfeld!!!

Gary

Ed Solero
Ed Solero on April 7, 2006 at 5:32 pm

I would hope that a filmmaker like Nora Ephron would try to do something more about the sad state of multiplex exhibition that to merely write an op-ed piece in the Times. Why couldn’t something like this happen to a Steven Spielberg or George Lucas, who might actually care enough and have sufficient high-powered influence to make some waves over this unforgiveable lack of regard for the product (the very costly product, I might add) manufactured by the industry?

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on April 7, 2006 at 5:30 pm

Gary – I was there too on the first day of “Roger Rabbit”. The air conditioning wasn’t working at all, and the ticket taker told everybody that. If it were any other theater, I would’ve turned around and left … but not at the Ziegfeld.

ZiegfeldMan
ZiegfeldMan on April 7, 2006 at 4:38 pm

We are all in agreement—I remember seeing the first showing of “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” at the Ziegfeld. Incredibly hot summer day, the A/C, unfortunately, was barely working, the place was packed—and we all had a great time.

I received my Direct TV statement today with an enclosure for “pay per view” with this pitch—“No cell phones, No loud talkers, No popcorn crunchers.” “This May, stay home and have the theater all to yourself.”

With that said and what has been said above, I am still amazed that the Ziegfeld even exists today.

If the Ziegfeld could get an “exclusive” on “The DaVinci Code” next month(which it probably won’t), the lines would be back. But I’ll be there opening day.

Until then, in the hope of more “classics,” list some more favorites (Please)and send your comments and appreciations to Clearview.

Movieguy-the only good thing about the AMC 25 is the lobby!!

Thanks,

Gary

P.S. Check this out in Today’s Times for the state of the Multiplex:

OPINION | April 7, 2006
Op-Ed Contributor: The Last Picture Show
By NORA EPHRON
Going to see the movies, circa 2006.
View link

evmovieguy
evmovieguy on April 7, 2006 at 12:13 pm

As I mentioned in an earlier post here Oliver Stone’s ‘The Doors’ had huge lines opening night at the Ziegfeld back in 1990-91. I went to to the midnight show. Had to wait in a huge line out side. The show was absolutely sold out, every seat filled.

YMike
YMike on April 7, 2006 at 10:18 am

There were lines around the block when “Independence Day” opened in 1996. I had to go to a 10 AM show to get in.

Bill Huelbig
Bill Huelbig on April 7, 2006 at 9:22 am

What Movieguy is describing is exactly the way it used to be at the Ziegfeld in the ‘70s and early '80s. Most times when a movie opened there exclusively, (“Close Encounters”, “Hair”, “Gandhi”, etc.), there were always lines around the block and a struggle to find seats.