I read that the prints of 2001 had not been shipped out yet to the rest of the country so that Kubrick was able to have all first run prints cut. So that the Uptown and Capitol were the only theaters to show it for a brief period as Kubrick first edited it. Considering how meticulous he was I assume he had all that film destroyed as he had all models used in the film destroyed so that it would be impossible for them to be used in other movies.
Anybody know if any of those snips actually did survive? It would depend on a cutter being sneaky and being able to hide the film like the editor of 1776 did when Jack Warner demanded that Cool Cool Considerate Men not only be cut from the film but also be destroyed.
Moviejs1944 uploaded a picture for The Bat Whispers which I did not know opened at the Rivoli. It was one of the first films filmed in 65MM. I saw its restoration at MOMA. But there was no mention of widescreen on the theater signage so I guess they showed the 1.33 version. This is odd because if they didn’t show the 65mm first run in NY where else would they show it in this format except in Hollywood? Very odd.
Anyway the best thing about the film is its title. The wide screen added nothing to its mise en scene. But the outside display at the Rivoli is spectacular.
I hope grindhouse doesn’t mind that I took his ad for the Syosset for 2001 and also placed it here as this is where I saw it in ‘76 and it was one of the greatest cinematic experiences of my life. I wasn’t expecting that it was going to be that all too rare religious experience for me. They showed it on the Dimension 150 screen and the end of the print it said filmed in Cinerama.
I saw it again in 78 and it was not nearly as impressive on the Todd AO screen and at the end it said filmed in 70mm or some variation of the 70mm process.
I assume the ad Gerald De Luca just posted for Gold of Naples is the American cut. I prefer it to the original Italian because it is shorter and tighter. And the ending with Mangano at the door seeking entry is so devastating nothing should come after it. One of the great endings. A great film if you haven’t seen it.
How come there was a time when truly beautiful women could be great actresses?
So how many roadshow theaters did Atlantic City have? Virginia, Embassy, Shore, Center,…any others? That’s quite a few.
I’m surprised the Virginia did not get Oliver! or Funny Girl the two big roadshows of summer ‘69.
Mikeoaklandpark so I imagine you got to know the theaters of Atlantic City and Philadelphia quite well perhaps with a side trip to Manhattan?
Lucky you. It must have been painful watching the Randolph come down.
It was a giant bunker getting the best films while great Times Square theaters like the Rivoli and Criterion were rotting. I didn’t understand it at all.
Thoroughly Modern Millie had its world premiere as a roadshow engagement at this theater in March of ‘67.
Kino has put out what they consider the roadshow bluray of this movie.
What better way to celebrate a deluxe first run Times Square theater than to celebrate the films that opened there and how we can recreate those experiences though the theaters are long gone.
I thought the 2013 full 4 hour cut for the anniversary(the current version?) which played in theaters was the film as premiered in ‘63 at the Rivoli. As far as I know it’s the longest Hollywood studio released film.
This was my boyhood theater starting with movies like PT 109 and Lady and the Tramp. Beautiful theater and nice size screen. Was never in it since it was turned into shoe boxes. Why bother? My TV is probably as large as the screens.
And to have gotten rid of that organ! Vandalism.
How lucky!
I’ve seen them both perform but never had the pleasure of meeting them.
That happened with me when I had Rex Harrison and Jeremy Brett sign my MFL souvenir book. It’s like they hadn’t seen it in forever and were delighted.
Oh bigjoe59 say it ain’t so! Bye Bye Birdie. Which Columbia will finally be releasing at the end of this month. I missed the Twilight Time which now goes for crazy amounts of money.
Well Kino also put out Sweet Charity. Let’s hope they manage to not make the same mistake they made with that one with TMM. Remember these people who are doing the work probably weren’t even alive during the roadshow era so they don’t know what the experience was like.
Columbia gave two huge hits like BBB and Oliver! to Twilight Time. Who can figure out why these decisions are made?
Did you go to the Astor Plaza Aids benefit of TMM where Andrews was supposed to appear but canceled due to ill health? Channing did appear of course. Letters were read from the other cast members including Moore, Fox and Gavin. Joel Siegel introduced the film and for some idiotic reason went on to trash it. Channing then in the most charming way imaginable as the experienced pro she was went on to trash him.
Who knows what the hell he was thinking when he was speaking to an audience of TMM fans.
I read that the prints of 2001 had not been shipped out yet to the rest of the country so that Kubrick was able to have all first run prints cut. So that the Uptown and Capitol were the only theaters to show it for a brief period as Kubrick first edited it. Considering how meticulous he was I assume he had all that film destroyed as he had all models used in the film destroyed so that it would be impossible for them to be used in other movies.
Anybody know if any of those snips actually did survive? It would depend on a cutter being sneaky and being able to hide the film like the editor of 1776 did when Jack Warner demanded that Cool Cool Considerate Men not only be cut from the film but also be destroyed.
What did it say at the end of the showing at the Capitol? Filmed in Cinerama or just the logo like on the 4k?
Moviejs1944 uploaded a picture for The Bat Whispers which I did not know opened at the Rivoli. It was one of the first films filmed in 65MM. I saw its restoration at MOMA. But there was no mention of widescreen on the theater signage so I guess they showed the 1.33 version. This is odd because if they didn’t show the 65mm first run in NY where else would they show it in this format except in Hollywood? Very odd.
Anyway the best thing about the film is its title. The wide screen added nothing to its mise en scene. But the outside display at the Rivoli is spectacular.
I hope grindhouse doesn’t mind that I took his ad for the Syosset for 2001 and also placed it here as this is where I saw it in ‘76 and it was one of the greatest cinematic experiences of my life. I wasn’t expecting that it was going to be that all too rare religious experience for me. They showed it on the Dimension 150 screen and the end of the print it said filmed in Cinerama.
I saw it again in 78 and it was not nearly as impressive on the Todd AO screen and at the end it said filmed in 70mm or some variation of the 70mm process.
I assume the ad Gerald De Luca just posted for Gold of Naples is the American cut. I prefer it to the original Italian because it is shorter and tighter. And the ending with Mangano at the door seeking entry is so devastating nothing should come after it. One of the great endings. A great film if you haven’t seen it.
How come there was a time when truly beautiful women could be great actresses?
So how many roadshow theaters did Atlantic City have? Virginia, Embassy, Shore, Center,…any others? That’s quite a few. I’m surprised the Virginia did not get Oliver! or Funny Girl the two big roadshows of summer ‘69.
Mikeoaklandpark so I imagine you got to know the theaters of Atlantic City and Philadelphia quite well perhaps with a side trip to Manhattan? Lucky you. It must have been painful watching the Randolph come down.
It was a giant bunker getting the best films while great Times Square theaters like the Rivoli and Criterion were rotting. I didn’t understand it at all.
One of those films that looked like a made for TV movie blown up on the Music Hall screen.
Thoroughly Modern Millie had its world premiere as a roadshow engagement at this theater in March of ‘67. Kino has put out what they consider the roadshow bluray of this movie. What better way to celebrate a deluxe first run Times Square theater than to celebrate the films that opened there and how we can recreate those experiences though the theaters are long gone.
Are they hoping that vast very old space collapses or is considered structurally unsound after the raising so they can build condos or offices?
I’ve never seen the Norma Shearer ‘The Red Shoes.’
Thank you. It was an excellent print. People are bemoaning the quality of the bluray so I’m wondering why a better bluray is not possible.
I’d like to know what happened to that print.
Where and when was the showing of the Rivoli print in Asbury Park?
Does anyone know when the restored El Cid played here in 70mm?
I thought the 2013 full 4 hour cut for the anniversary(the current version?) which played in theaters was the film as premiered in ‘63 at the Rivoli. As far as I know it’s the longest Hollywood studio released film.
This was my boyhood theater starting with movies like PT 109 and Lady and the Tramp. Beautiful theater and nice size screen. Was never in it since it was turned into shoe boxes. Why bother? My TV is probably as large as the screens. And to have gotten rid of that organ! Vandalism.
For those who went to the Capitol during its reserved seat days what exactly were the divans? Were they the firsts rows of the mezzanine or loge?
Anybody see Funny Girl at the Criterion? Alas I was too young. How was the presentation? To me it seems like the last great successful roadshow film.
How lucky! I’ve seen them both perform but never had the pleasure of meeting them. That happened with me when I had Rex Harrison and Jeremy Brett sign my MFL souvenir book. It’s like they hadn’t seen it in forever and were delighted.
Was this at a showing of the film?
I’m crazy jealous.
Oh bigjoe59 say it ain’t so!
Bye Bye Birdie.
Which Columbia will finally be releasing at the end of this month. I missed the Twilight Time which now goes for crazy amounts of money.
And I think it’s on the regular DVD.
I don’t have it but I read about it. They messed up something concerning the intermission like leaving out the entr'acte before the second half.
Well Kino also put out Sweet Charity. Let’s hope they manage to not make the same mistake they made with that one with TMM. Remember these people who are doing the work probably weren’t even alive during the roadshow era so they don’t know what the experience was like. Columbia gave two huge hits like BBB and Oliver! to Twilight Time. Who can figure out why these decisions are made?
Did you go to the Astor Plaza Aids benefit of TMM where Andrews was supposed to appear but canceled due to ill health? Channing did appear of course. Letters were read from the other cast members including Moore, Fox and Gavin. Joel Siegel introduced the film and for some idiotic reason went on to trash it. Channing then in the most charming way imaginable as the experienced pro she was went on to trash him. Who knows what the hell he was thinking when he was speaking to an audience of TMM fans.