RKO Madison Theatre

54-30 Myrtle Avenue,
Ridgewood, NY 11385

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PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 17, 2004 at 5:07 pm

lostmemory, I just checked the IMDb, and it shows a release date of 1953 for “House Of Wax”.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 17, 2004 at 3:53 pm

Agreed. The Madison greatly enchanced my viewing of the horror films I saw there, such as “The Premature Burial” (summer 1962)“Black Sabbath” (summer 1964),“I Saw What You Did” (summer 1965), “Die Monster Die !” (day before start of school, September 1966), “Dracula Has Risen From The Grave” (January 1969), and “Tales From The Crypt”(March 1972).

Which brings us to two Clive Barker short stories, “Sex, Death and Starshine”, the ultimate haunted theater story, and “Son Of Celluloid”, in which the memories, thoughts and emotions the audience presses upon the images on the screen of a revival cinema, combine with the stomach cancer of a dead escaped convict between the screen and back wall of the theater, to form a shape-shifting monster.

Bway
Bway on August 17, 2004 at 3:40 pm

Actually, I think the older theaters are better to see horror films in, even classic ones like Psycho. Just like many horror movies are set in old Victorian homes, etc, I think viewing a movie like that in an ornate theater such as the Madison with all it’s marble, plasterwork, and chandeliers would have added to the whole experience – something you can’t really get in a modern theater or multiplex.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 17, 2004 at 3:21 pm

Hi lostmemory … you can check out “House Of Wax” at :

www.imdb.com

if you wish to check the release date. Yes, I know Charles Bronson was in “House Of Wax”. Also Vincent Price and Phyllis Kirk. Perhaps Buchinsky was Bronson’s original first name. That would be on the imdb also.

Bway and lostmemory, thanks for mentioning that “Psycho” was shown at the RKO Madison. Now, one of my favorite films, ever, and a favorite movie house I grew up with, will be forever linked in my psyche.

I recall “Psycho” being shown at the Ridgewood in its May 1969 re-release, and the Daily News referring to it as “Randforce’s Ridgewood”.

Bway
Bway on August 17, 2004 at 12:36 am

My father saw Psycho at the Madison. He also remembers getting scared from it. The Madison was his favorite theater to go to when he went to the movies.

RobertR
RobertR on August 16, 2004 at 5:11 pm

I know the Ridgewood played “House of Wax” on it’s 1971 re-release.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on August 16, 2004 at 3:39 pm

Thanks for posting your RKO Madison movie memories, lostmemory. I lived in Ridgewood from 1955 to 1991 and finally sold my Ridgewood home in 1999. I’m glad to read that those William Castle-directed gimmick movies were shown at the RKO Madison. “The Tingler” was in “spine-tingling Percepto.” “House On Haunted Hill” was in “bone-chilling Emergo”. I saw them both at the Fall 1988 Gimmick-O-Rama at Film Forum in lower Manhattan (then 57 Watts St., now 209 W. Houston, near Varick, #5957 on this site). “Mr. Sardonicus” had a “punishment poll.” The Castle film I saw at the Madison in summer 1965 was “I Saw What You Did”. My dad (born 1919) saw “House Of Wax” in 3-D in its original 1951 release at the Ridgewood Theater. I saw it at Film Forum. It’s good quality, color, Polaroid 3-D, not the one red lens, one blue lens, b & w, 3-D.

I saw “The Green Berets” at the RKO Madison in early August 1968.

The first film I remember seeing at the Madison was “Reptilicus” in 1961. The last film I saw there was “Lipstick” in June or July 1976. The last two films I remember playing at the Madison were “The Exorcist” and “The Yakuza” in August 1976.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on July 22, 2004 at 11:26 pm

For those present and former Ridgewood residents who wish to express their condolences and get-well wishes to Monsignor Kelly of St. Brigid Church, the address is :

St. Brigid Rectory
409 Linden Street
Brooklyn, New York 11237

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on July 22, 2004 at 9:51 pm

Warren, thanks for the examples. I can check these titles out with the help of the Internet Movie Data Base. Most are beyond my movie experience. If “The Spirit of St. Louis” starred James Stewart as Charles Lindbergh, I saw that on TV about 38 years ago. Some of the late ‘50’s and early '60’s movies I saw in theaters as a kid may have been “duds” in terms of revenue and media critical opinion, but my overall recollection of moviegoing as a kid is one of having lots of fun. Examples (among many) that come to mind, that I saw at the RKO Madison as a kid are two Roger Corman thrillers, “The Premature Burial” (1962) and “The Man With The X-Ray Eyes” (1963) and the black and white WW II film, “The Train” (1965), starring Burt Lancaster.

Bway
Bway on July 22, 2004 at 12:57 am

I was able to find a little bit more out about the Madison today (Warren and I were talking about it under the Rivoli theater the other day).
Anyway, I was in Ridgewood today, and was able to find some time for a walk on Myrtle Ave. I finally went into the Liberty Dept Store. I haven’t been in the building since it was Odd Lot, and that must have been the late 80’s. Well, the Liberty Dept Store is huge. It takes up the entire Madison’s lobby area, the entire area under the balcony and more than ½ of the main auditorium of the Madison, probably ¾ of it. It is exactly how I remember it from the Odd-Lot days. The old balcony stairway is still there, altough has modern stairs and railing (no sign of the Madison marble or railing). The stairway was wide open with a chain across it (man was I tempted to go up there!!!). You can clearly see the curve of the huge balcony right through the middle of the store. There is a drop ceiling under the balcony area, and in the old lobby area. You can no longer tell where the lobby ended, and the area under the balcony in the theater began. Past the balcony, the wall of the balcony (which is sheetrocked) goes up about 3 or 4 feet, and then another higher drop ceiling is the “fake ceiling” for the area of the store in the main auditorium.
They built an office or managers room in the left hand part of the theater, and that goes towards the old stage area. The door was open,and the room is sheetrocked. Then on the right hand side of the theater a huge storage room is located. That door was also open, and had a drop ceiling also, and sheetrocked walls. There is a door that goes outside from there too, presumably one of the former emergency exit doors.
The entire store is sheetrocked, and the store takes up the bulk of the former theater. If there is any part of the theater not in public view, it would be the huge stage area, and possibly a little more around the bend in the storage room that I could not see.
Aside from the totally modernized stairway (hard to imagine that it was once the Madison’s ornate marble stairway), and the curvatire of the balcony, there is NOTHING visable of the old theater. All the walls in the store itself, the office, and the storage room were completely sheetrocked with drop ceilings. The store does take up most of orchestra level of the theater, as well as the entire lobby. If anything at all still exists of the Madison, it can only be the top of the walls, the top of the procenium arch, and the ceiling, and possibly the balcony area (was it one or two balconies), that’s it. At least the mystery of whether Liberty Dept Store occupies the main auditorium or not is solved….now one of us has to get the management of the store to let us go up theat stairway!!!

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on July 8, 2004 at 4:50 pm

I saw “Three Stooges In Orbit” and “Mothra” on a double bill at the RKO Madison, summer of 1961, without seeing the Stooges in person.

Please give me some examples of “dud” movies from the late 1950’s and ‘60’s. Thanks in advance.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on July 8, 2004 at 4:06 pm

I agree with you. I suppose the July 13 1977 blackout, and the looting and arson that resulted, was a “low point” of the 1970’s. Another would have been late Sept. / early October 1975 fiscal crisis, when NYC asked President Ford for financial assistance, Ford refused, and NYC almost went into default on its bonds.

The supermarket at the west corner of Wyckoff and Putnam that opened in the late ‘80’s did very well, I think, because it was the only store of its size in the square mile or so, of which it is the center. Similarly, I think the RKO Madison and Ridgewood were the only movie houses in the surrounding square mile, after the Oasis stopped showing movies. Consequently, I think the Madison would have done well, had it been multiplexed.

Bway
Bway on July 8, 2004 at 3:57 pm

I will ask him when I see him for sure. The Madison was always his favorite theater. I know it was more popular for stars to come to premieres at the Madison in the early 60’s and earlier, but it did happen in the late 60’s yet every so often too. My mother and father were dating in the late 60’s, and they went to one such premiere then. How sad that just a decade later the madison would be considered an “eyesore”. The 60’s and 70’s made NY loose so many beautiful buildings (not just theaters). It’s too bad some didn’t make it to the 80’s when people started rediscovering them. I would even have accepted (grudgingly) if the Madison had been “multiplexized” like the Ridgewood – it’s certainly better than it’s actual fate. Unfortunately the neighborhood around the block where the Madison is was already getting sort of grungy when I was a kid in the 70’s. If it had been a bit further east on Myrtle, around where the Ridgewood theater is, it may have lasted a bit longer as a theater – enough to keep it’s lights on (or off so to speak for a theater) a bit longer, at least to escape the “dismal 70’s”.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on July 8, 2004 at 3:45 pm

Thanks, Bway. That’s very interesting ! My father claims to remember a singing star (Eddie Cantor, Al Jolson, or Georgie Jessel) coming out of the subway at the southeast corner of Myrtle and Wyckoff, near Optimo Cigars and McDonald’s, and asking for directions to the RKO Madison. My dad remembers telling him, and getting free passes to the show as a result.

My dad also remembers seeing live Shakespeare at the Madison, and the (for its time, 1951) racially controversial film, “Pinky”, introduced live on stage by Ed Sullivan, at the Madison also.

Movie stars leaving their cars and stepping into the RKO Madison, into the late ‘60’s ? I picture Ray Milland doing this for “The Man With The X-Ray Eyes” in 1964, or Susan Oliver for “Change Of Mind” in 1969 ! Please ask your dad about this some more. Thanks in advance !

Bway
Bway on July 7, 2004 at 11:58 pm

My father told me that when he was a teenager, and young adult in Ridgewood, the Madison was quite the place. Many times stars of certain movies would arrive at the Madison when their movies were playing in the theater. He had seen quite a few people at the theater. Even if he didn’t go to the movie, he said you could wait out front of the Madison and see the stars come out of their limo (or whaterver) and see them walk into the theater. This even lasted into the late 60’s!

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 12, 2004 at 11:22 pm

Th film “Tentacles” mentioned in the opening comment by Robert R was released in 1977 so that is a clue. By late February 1978 the theater was closed, and a designated neighborhood eyesore.

William
William on May 12, 2004 at 11:19 pm

The Madison Theatre is located at 54-30 Myrtle Ave.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 12, 2004 at 11:16 pm

The last film I saw at the RKO Madison Theater was the trashy thriller “Lipstick” starring Chris Sarandon as an electronics freak rapist, Margaux Hemingway as his victim, and younger sister Mariel as his would-be younger victim who witnessed the rape of her older sister. This was in July 1976. The following month the Madison was showing a re-release of “The Exorcist” along with “The Yakuza”, a film about Japanese organized crime. I also remember “Godzilla vs. Megalon” as one of the last films shown by the Madison.

If anyone can tell me the exact or approximate date the Madison closed, and stopped showing films, I would very much appreciate it. It is something I should remember, and yet I do not. Thank you all in advance.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 12, 2004 at 11:11 pm

This site does not have a page for the Rivoli Theater that once stood in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn so I will mention it here.
The Rivoli Theater once stood on the south side of Myrtle Avenue between Greene Avenue and Harman Street, and just west of Knickerbocker Avenue, a busy and important shopping street. It was about a half mile almost due west of the RKO Madison Theater along Myrtle Avenue. It is adjacent to the eastbound platform of the Knickerbocker Avenue station of the Myrtle Avenue elevated line (M train). It may appear in the “shadows” at the left edge of this image :

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6608

I have the address from another site and will include it in a subsequent comment.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 11, 2004 at 11:54 pm

Sorry, that third image should be :

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2198

Description given above in my previous comment still applies.

The theater was named after the nearby Madison Street but is actually one block west at Myrtle Avenue and Woodbine Street in Ridgewood, Queens, NYC, NY.

PeterKoch
PeterKoch on May 11, 2004 at 11:51 pm

The west wall of the RKO Madison can be glimpsed to the right of the green signal tower in the following images :

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6847

Letters “RK AD THE” of the painted sign are visible.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1409

The painted sign has been blurred and newer and bolder graffiti is beginning to prevail.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2918

In this view, one el station due west on Myrtle Avenue, the theater, especially its silver-white roofline, is visible near the vanishing point.

Bway
Bway on April 16, 2004 at 12:45 am

To answer Robert’s question about the theater being intact or not, I don’t know what remains of the beautiful theater that was the Madison. What I do remember was that after being empty for quite a while, the Madison had become a “Consumers” store. Later, it became an “Odd Lot” store. I had visited both of those stores many times. You used to be able to see the outline of the balcony on the ceiling. They put in a “fake ceiling” in the main part of the theater, so don’t know what remained of the old theater as it was all covered. Some time around when it closed as a theater to when it opened as Consumers, the Madison burned, so I don’t know how much of the theater survived between neglect, time, the fire, and just conversion to stores.
The exterior had survived quite nicely. Although the marquee was removed around the time of the store conversion, the marble facade on Myrtle survived quite nicely, and was even cleaned and pointed. Unfortunately, the Liberty Dept store that now occupies the theater covered half the facade with their sign. Now covered are the ornate marble window surroundings that last and were even restored some years earlier.
Also if you stand on the Wyckoff Ave station platform of the M line el, you can just vaguely make out “Madison Theatre” in a rapidly fading painted sign showing a relic from the past.

Bway
Bway on April 14, 2004 at 7:45 pm

Anyone know of a place where interior shots of this or other Brooklyn theaters could be seen?

William
William on February 11, 2004 at 5:52 pm

The RKO Madison Theatre seated 2760 people.

RobertR
RobertR on February 10, 2004 at 5:28 pm

is the theatre intact?