I’m sorry, the money was NOT there…never was. State and fed money was about 20% of what you needed and that is all you had, but alas it never came did it…so there was NO money. Do not come on this site and lie to people.
I am sure Obama could care less, after all this was nothing more than a shuttered run-down building in a town that is mostly Republican. Obama is a Democrat. He has only been in office for a short time and seems to have bigger things on his mind.
If you want to point fingers look no further than the group that set out to restore the building, the friends. They have not had a fundraiser in years, collected only thousands when they needed millions, and sold-out to a developer who demolished the auditorium. Now the theater is gone so let’s move on.
What do your two posts have to do with the significance of the DuPage theatre? Sure they are nice articles about Lombard, but this is a theatre preservation site. Last time I looked the theatre was demolished. A DEMOLITION plan supported by a group known as the “friends.†A group you are (were) part of, no less.
As to mp775 scroll up to find your answer, but I will recopy the post from December 18 below:
“Their vice president, who claimed to have all these contacts in the business world, could not come up with one red cent! There are many, many companies out there who literally donate MILLIONS of dollars a year to causes and he couldn’t get ANYTHING from them. The only thing he and the president of the Friend’s managed to do was to get their names in the papers on a weekly basis. In fact, even as the theatre was being destroyed, WITHOUT a redevelopment agreement to replace it, they were claiming success? HOW IS DESTRUCTION OF THE VERY THING YOU WERE ORIGINALLY CHARGED WITH SAVING A SUCCESS? Because there are some good pictures for history books?
K.F. stated “We sponsored a huge fundraiser concert featuring the Ides of March rock group."
That fundraiser was in October 2004, which further supports my theory that the friends were a failure because that was there last fundraiser. Plus he lied about the T-Bills earning 18%.
Second he stated “All of us at theater central are so excited about 2007.” Weren’t you excited about 2004, 05, and 06? Or 99, 00, etc. And all you accomplished since 2004 was to have the theatre torn down. At the rate you are going no construction will begin in 2007, and you’ll be lucky if it happens in 2008.
yes I live in lilactown. I hope you sell a pie for the theatre, if you sell at least one pie for $1.00 you would have raised more for the theatre than the 28 friends have done for the past 2.5 years.
KF you posted:
“I know all too well of the neglect by the previous owners. I also know of the neglect by the current owner. I do believe my previous posts reflect that.”
But then you attacked me when I said the same thing"
Blame it on the previous owner? Oh that’s a good one.
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
You got caught in you own web of lies again…first you were against demolition now you are for it. First you said the previous owner was to blame, then you said he was NOT to blame, and NOW you say he is to blame again. Which is it?
What sour grapes would I have? That makes no sense. All I have stated since 1999 is that as long as your group was in charge the theatre was going to get torn down, which it did.
KF has posted the same tiring phrase 12 times in 14 days for two reasons;
1) KF can’t think of anything better to say.
2) KF has some slight problems (mental) that force him to ALWAYS get the last word in.
Let me tell you what kind of person KF is, just scroll up and read the post where I placed blame of the condition of the theatre on the previous owner here is KF’s response:
Blame it on the previous owner? Oh that’s a good one.
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
Now let me cut & paste some of his posts from the other dupe site hete on CT:
When the theatre was bastardized and was triplexed I quit going.It has had it’s bad days due to neglect by the previous owners.The short of it is that the previous owners just NEGLECTED the theatre.
posted by K.F. on Oct 21, 2005 at 6:12am
The last operator/owner of the theatre just bastardized the theatre.He just poured concrete down the 2 main isles to make ramps.Then painted the concrete.He even poured concrete right on top of carpeting.
posted by K.F. on Oct 25, 2005 at 7:03am
He blames it on the previous owner, then I say the same thing and he says “that’s crazy”. Again this supports my theory about KF:
1) he can’t think of anything better to say.
2) he has some slight problems (mental) that force him to ALWAYS get the last word in which is why he will continue to post the same tiring thing time and time again.
KF thank you for supporting my theory, please post some more to strengthen it.
I donated money to the theatre for preservation. Money that I will never see again. Why would I give money to a preservation group if I supported demolition?
Plus I do NOT support this current “condo/blackbox” plan that included demolition.
I think I answered all you questions, so your double-edged sword theory holds no water.
But based on your fuzzy logic I will ask you a question. Do you support this current plan? The same plan that emphasized DEMOLITION and Taxpayer support. Do you support this current plan?
You see folks for those of you who need a scorecard KF was a prominent player in the preservation of the theatre…the same one that has just been torn down, and with his approval! The he has posted the same tirinf phrase 9 times in 8 days for two reasons
1) he can’t think of anything better to say.
2) he has some slight problems (mental) that force him to ALWAYS get the last word in which is why he will continue to post the same tiring thing time and time again.
Why would a man (Not really a man) who supported demolition post on a preservation site?
…“Cry me a river"
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
“Cry me a river. Will you? "
posted by K.F. on Dec 18, 2006 at 8:08am
“Cry me a river. Will you?”
posted by K.F. on Dec 18, 2006 at 12:06pm
“More sour grapes. Cry me a river. Will you? "
…"Cry me a river…”… “Cry me a river”.
posted by K.F. on Dec 18, 2006 at 6:45pm
Cry me a river.Will you?
posted by K.F. on Dec 21, 2006 at 1:46pm
Cry me a river. Will you?
Cry me a river.
posted by K.F. on Dec 22, 2006 at 6:06pm
KF this site is for preservation NOT politics…take your mindless ramblings to another site. The theatre is gone, thanks to you, why don’t you let it go.
Sorry you got “DD” and “follow the money” mixed up. I said those things about FTM, who has since been banned from this site for his moronic ramblimgs.
There has never been a wrecking ball parked outside the theatre….ever. It was taken down with a bulldozer. More lies.
“Would you give money…” That is the biggest copout ever. I gave money so my answer is YES! People stopped giving money because your group was a bunch of misguided individuals who swore they would save the theatre and now support a plan that included demolition.
The grants were turned down AFTER you failed to meet deadlines and promises. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
I noticed that several times you failed to address my comments about your fundraising abilities. Why did you stop fundraising? Was it because you knew all along that the taxpayers should pay the bill? Even after you guys promised NO tax money would be used. Now the taxpayers are funding a blackbox theatre plan that included DEMOLITION….demolition that YOU SUPPORTED. You are to blame…nobody else…so cry me a river.
The only opinions he stated was about the outcome of the referendum, mainly because it never happened and the future political aspirations of your leaders. The local paper stated that they picked up nomination forms (fact), whether they run is an opinion.
Did they raise any money since deb took over? Hardly. No fundraisers in over two years…except a couple of celebration dinners.
To deny any of DD’s FACTS (or mine) would make you a liar and a fraud. You denied them, therefore…
whenever someone states a fact you reply with “cry me a river”. Most of what Dupagedude wrote are facts, with the exception that a referendum would have went in their favor by showing support (his opinion), and whether the President and VP will run for public office (remains to be seen). To deny any of DD’s comments would make you a liar and a fraud.
Please come up with something better than that.
This guy KF was already thrown off this site, but he logged on again. Too bad Ross and Patrick, who own this site, deleted all his old posts. He talked of conspiracy theories and supeona’s.
He is right, all the blame can’t be placed on the previous owner. The Friends of the Dupage are mostly to blame. Quite simply they supported the plan for demolition.
Ray don’t talk about name calling, your posts reek of it. Plus you support theatrebuffoon who ripped the whole town, of which you are a part of. Which ever way the wind is blowing ray.
“However.I am not so sure that the auditorium will be demolished
posted by follow the money on Aug 8, 2006 at 10:49am”
Blame it on the previous owner, he let it fall into such disrepair. Were we supposed to spend upwards of $12 million of our tax money to save it? By your posts it shows you have no class or intelligence.
Please tell us how much you donated?
Its easy to hide somewhere and throw stones, but (according to you) if you did not donate then you are “culturally depraved”
“Not to mention the fact that, according to stories, some of the damage to the exterior of the building was "helped” along by anti-theatre individuals…
posted by DuPageDude on Nov 7, 2006 at 4:24pm"
Who cares what else you wrote, this post is entirely a lie.
TheaterBuff1,
Your unwarranted comment was completely uncalled for:
“But the other extreme was that it was located in an area — Lombard, Illinois — where the citizenry are so culturally depraved that none of that registered.”
Your name should be “Theatre buffoon”. It shows you know very little of this theatre or the town.
Dupagedude Jim, who is the real “wackjob” here. Look at your insane post from a couple weeks ago:
“Not to mention the fact that, according to stories, some of the damage to the exterior of the building was "helped” along by anti-theatre individuals…
posted by DuPageDude on Nov 7, 2006 at 4:24pm"
And how about this post from your buddy Ray:
“However.I am not so sure that the auditorium will be demolished"
posted by follow the money on Aug 8, 2006 at 10:49am”
look at that paper quote again “the village has to find a way to pay for the $40 million redevelopment project”. Why should the Village pay? This group, the friends, set out years ago to save the theatre. They needed millions, but collected only thousands. There was very little support. For years they said “NO tax money would be used”, and now it will be fully funded by tax money. A fully tax-funded blackbox theatre… a plan that has NOT even been approved yet!
Then you say “it takes a sensible person to admit defeat”, but they are not admitting defeat, they are claiming a victory because they saved a few light fixtures… big deal! As of this moment the auditorium is half gone.
There is a big difference between defeat and failure, and failure is was brought the Dupe down, and no one can argue with that.
KF (aka Ray) Have you been by there today? There were at least 40-50 pallets of bricks stacked and banded. Call the brick company (as we did) and ask how much a pallet is ($175 or more a skid and $100 for delivery for each shid). ANYBODY CAN PURCHASE A PALLETT OF THESE BRICKS. The companies name is on the side of each pallet. Then ask then what they are doing with them…shipping then south to a warmer climate. Then when you conform that my information is correct you can retract you last statement.
Brian, years of neglect!!! What part of that statement do you not understand? The building has sat vacant for 11+ years and was neglected for 20 years before that, both true statements that can very easily be verified. Most of the gutters were loose or gone altogether and rain just drained down the side of the building, which is why bricks were falling off. It got so bad that they had to put a safety fence around the building. Check this site out:
My house is NOT neglected, and yes, at 60 years old I probably will need a little tuck-pointing soon. What I don’t understand is you the point you were trying to make with your comment. Whatever you meant you just exposed yourself as exactly the kind of person I imagine you are.
Jim,
I’m sorry, the money was NOT there…never was. State and fed money was about 20% of what you needed and that is all you had, but alas it never came did it…so there was NO money. Do not come on this site and lie to people.
Theatrebuff
Dude!! You state “people…of Lombard were allowed to act on their hatreds, prejudices and even jealousies unchecked”
This was about money $$$$ plain and simple. The money was not there.
Theaterbuff,
I am sure Obama could care less, after all this was nothing more than a shuttered run-down building in a town that is mostly Republican. Obama is a Democrat. He has only been in office for a short time and seems to have bigger things on his mind.
If you want to point fingers look no further than the group that set out to restore the building, the friends. They have not had a fundraiser in years, collected only thousands when they needed millions, and sold-out to a developer who demolished the auditorium. Now the theater is gone so let’s move on.
Ray,
What do your two posts have to do with the significance of the DuPage theatre? Sure they are nice articles about Lombard, but this is a theatre preservation site. Last time I looked the theatre was demolished. A DEMOLITION plan supported by a group known as the “friends.†A group you are (were) part of, no less.
As to mp775 scroll up to find your answer, but I will recopy the post from December 18 below:
“Their vice president, who claimed to have all these contacts in the business world, could not come up with one red cent! There are many, many companies out there who literally donate MILLIONS of dollars a year to causes and he couldn’t get ANYTHING from them. The only thing he and the president of the Friend’s managed to do was to get their names in the papers on a weekly basis. In fact, even as the theatre was being destroyed, WITHOUT a redevelopment agreement to replace it, they were claiming success? HOW IS DESTRUCTION OF THE VERY THING YOU WERE ORIGINALLY CHARGED WITH SAVING A SUCCESS? Because there are some good pictures for history books?
posted by DuPageDude on Dec 18, 2006 at 6:03amâ€
K.F. stated “We sponsored a huge fundraiser concert featuring the Ides of March rock group."
That fundraiser was in October 2004, which further supports my theory that the friends were a failure because that was there last fundraiser. Plus he lied about the T-Bills earning 18%.
Second he stated “All of us at theater central are so excited about 2007.” Weren’t you excited about 2004, 05, and 06? Or 99, 00, etc. And all you accomplished since 2004 was to have the theatre torn down. At the rate you are going no construction will begin in 2007, and you’ll be lucky if it happens in 2008.
Anne (aka True Class),
yes I live in lilactown. I hope you sell a pie for the theatre, if you sell at least one pie for $1.00 you would have raised more for the theatre than the 28 friends have done for the past 2.5 years.
Quite from K.F.:
“This is a theater preservation website. Kindly treat it as such.”
What would you know about preservation? You supported a plan that included demolition of the theatre.
What’s wrong with those posts, the first one is needs to be updated because that $560,000 figure is much higher now.
People in glass houses should NOT throw stones:
Who is the real buffoon? For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee.
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
KF you posted:
“I know all too well of the neglect by the previous owners. I also know of the neglect by the current owner. I do believe my previous posts reflect that.”
But then you attacked me when I said the same thing"
Blame it on the previous owner? Oh that’s a good one.
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
You got caught in you own web of lies again…first you were against demolition now you are for it. First you said the previous owner was to blame, then you said he was NOT to blame, and NOW you say he is to blame again. Which is it?
What sour grapes would I have? That makes no sense. All I have stated since 1999 is that as long as your group was in charge the theatre was going to get torn down, which it did.
KF has posted the same tiring phrase 12 times in 14 days for two reasons;
1) KF can’t think of anything better to say.
2) KF has some slight problems (mental) that force him to ALWAYS get the last word in.
Let me tell you what kind of person KF is, just scroll up and read the post where I placed blame of the condition of the theatre on the previous owner here is KF’s response:
Blame it on the previous owner? Oh that’s a good one.
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
Now let me cut & paste some of his posts from the other dupe site hete on CT:
When the theatre was bastardized and was triplexed I quit going.It has had it’s bad days due to neglect by the previous owners.The short of it is that the previous owners just NEGLECTED the theatre.
posted by K.F. on Oct 21, 2005 at 6:12am
The last operator/owner of the theatre just bastardized the theatre.He just poured concrete down the 2 main isles to make ramps.Then painted the concrete.He even poured concrete right on top of carpeting.
posted by K.F. on Oct 25, 2005 at 7:03am
He blames it on the previous owner, then I say the same thing and he says “that’s crazy”. Again this supports my theory about KF:
1) he can’t think of anything better to say.
2) he has some slight problems (mental) that force him to ALWAYS get the last word in which is why he will continue to post the same tiring thing time and time again.
KF thank you for supporting my theory, please post some more to strengthen it.
I donated money to the theatre for preservation. Money that I will never see again. Why would I give money to a preservation group if I supported demolition?
Plus I do NOT support this current “condo/blackbox” plan that included demolition.
I think I answered all you questions, so your double-edged sword theory holds no water.
But based on your fuzzy logic I will ask you a question. Do you support this current plan? The same plan that emphasized DEMOLITION and Taxpayer support. Do you support this current plan?
The only “crying moaning person” on this board is you KF.
You supported demolition, not me.
You see folks for those of you who need a scorecard KF was a prominent player in the preservation of the theatre…the same one that has just been torn down, and with his approval! The he has posted the same tirinf phrase 9 times in 8 days for two reasons
1) he can’t think of anything better to say.
2) he has some slight problems (mental) that force him to ALWAYS get the last word in which is why he will continue to post the same tiring thing time and time again.
Why would a man (Not really a man) who supported demolition post on a preservation site?
…“Cry me a river"
posted by K.F. on Dec 14, 2006 at 12:23pm
“Cry me a river. Will you? "
posted by K.F. on Dec 18, 2006 at 8:08am
“Cry me a river. Will you?”
posted by K.F. on Dec 18, 2006 at 12:06pm
“More sour grapes. Cry me a river. Will you? "
…"Cry me a river…”… “Cry me a river”.
posted by K.F. on Dec 18, 2006 at 6:45pm
Cry me a river.Will you?
posted by K.F. on Dec 21, 2006 at 1:46pm
Cry me a river. Will you?
Cry me a river.
posted by K.F. on Dec 22, 2006 at 6:06pm
KF this site is for preservation NOT politics…take your mindless ramblings to another site. The theatre is gone, thanks to you, why don’t you let it go.
Sorry you got “DD” and “follow the money” mixed up. I said those things about FTM, who has since been banned from this site for his moronic ramblimgs.
There has never been a wrecking ball parked outside the theatre….ever. It was taken down with a bulldozer. More lies.
“Would you give money…” That is the biggest copout ever. I gave money so my answer is YES! People stopped giving money because your group was a bunch of misguided individuals who swore they would save the theatre and now support a plan that included demolition.
The grants were turned down AFTER you failed to meet deadlines and promises. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
I noticed that several times you failed to address my comments about your fundraising abilities. Why did you stop fundraising? Was it because you knew all along that the taxpayers should pay the bill? Even after you guys promised NO tax money would be used. Now the taxpayers are funding a blackbox theatre plan that included DEMOLITION….demolition that YOU SUPPORTED. You are to blame…nobody else…so cry me a river.
The only opinions he stated was about the outcome of the referendum, mainly because it never happened and the future political aspirations of your leaders. The local paper stated that they picked up nomination forms (fact), whether they run is an opinion.
Did they raise any money since deb took over? Hardly. No fundraisers in over two years…except a couple of celebration dinners.
To deny any of DD’s FACTS (or mine) would make you a liar and a fraud. You denied them, therefore…
K.F.,
whenever someone states a fact you reply with “cry me a river”. Most of what Dupagedude wrote are facts, with the exception that a referendum would have went in their favor by showing support (his opinion), and whether the President and VP will run for public office (remains to be seen). To deny any of DD’s comments would make you a liar and a fraud.
Please come up with something better than that.
K.F. (aka Ray)(aka Follow the money)(aka ‘aka’),
This guy KF was already thrown off this site, but he logged on again. Too bad Ross and Patrick, who own this site, deleted all his old posts. He talked of conspiracy theories and supeona’s.
He is right, all the blame can’t be placed on the previous owner. The Friends of the Dupage are mostly to blame. Quite simply they supported the plan for demolition.
Ray don’t talk about name calling, your posts reek of it. Plus you support theatrebuffoon who ripped the whole town, of which you are a part of. Which ever way the wind is blowing ray.
“However.I am not so sure that the auditorium will be demolished
posted by follow the money on Aug 8, 2006 at 10:49am”
Happy Holidays
Theatre Buffoon,
Blame it on the previous owner, he let it fall into such disrepair. Were we supposed to spend upwards of $12 million of our tax money to save it? By your posts it shows you have no class or intelligence.
Please tell us how much you donated?
Its easy to hide somewhere and throw stones, but (according to you) if you did not donate then you are “culturally depraved”
Dupage Jim,
Did you not post this insane message?:
“Not to mention the fact that, according to stories, some of the damage to the exterior of the building was "helped” along by anti-theatre individuals…
posted by DuPageDude on Nov 7, 2006 at 4:24pm"
Who cares what else you wrote, this post is entirely a lie.
TheaterBuff1,
Your unwarranted comment was completely uncalled for:
“But the other extreme was that it was located in an area — Lombard, Illinois — where the citizenry are so culturally depraved that none of that registered.”
Your name should be “Theatre buffoon”. It shows you know very little of this theatre or the town.
Dupagedude Jim, who is the real “wackjob” here. Look at your insane post from a couple weeks ago:
“Not to mention the fact that, according to stories, some of the damage to the exterior of the building was "helped” along by anti-theatre individuals…
posted by DuPageDude on Nov 7, 2006 at 4:24pm"
And how about this post from your buddy Ray:
“However.I am not so sure that the auditorium will be demolished"
posted by follow the money on Aug 8, 2006 at 10:49am”
Even though the Auditorium is entirely gone now
corvetteguy1963,
look at that paper quote again “the village has to find a way to pay for the $40 million redevelopment project”. Why should the Village pay? This group, the friends, set out years ago to save the theatre. They needed millions, but collected only thousands. There was very little support. For years they said “NO tax money would be used”, and now it will be fully funded by tax money. A fully tax-funded blackbox theatre… a plan that has NOT even been approved yet!
Then you say “it takes a sensible person to admit defeat”, but they are not admitting defeat, they are claiming a victory because they saved a few light fixtures… big deal! As of this moment the auditorium is half gone.
There is a big difference between defeat and failure, and failure is was brought the Dupe down, and no one can argue with that.
That’s because the wrong people did the fighting and arguing
KF (aka Ray) Have you been by there today? There were at least 40-50 pallets of bricks stacked and banded. Call the brick company (as we did) and ask how much a pallet is ($175 or more a skid and $100 for delivery for each shid). ANYBODY CAN PURCHASE A PALLETT OF THESE BRICKS. The companies name is on the side of each pallet. Then ask then what they are doing with them…shipping then south to a warmer climate. Then when you conform that my information is correct you can retract you last statement.
Brian, years of neglect!!! What part of that statement do you not understand? The building has sat vacant for 11+ years and was neglected for 20 years before that, both true statements that can very easily be verified. Most of the gutters were loose or gone altogether and rain just drained down the side of the building, which is why bricks were falling off. It got so bad that they had to put a safety fence around the building. Check this site out:
www.dupagetheatre.com
My house is NOT neglected, and yes, at 60 years old I probably will need a little tuck-pointing soon. What I don’t understand is you the point you were trying to make with your comment. Whatever you meant you just exposed yourself as exactly the kind of person I imagine you are.