Now I don’t work in the industry but I’m a real big film buff. I worked as an extra in Oh Brother where art thou? By the way the films several of them didn’t open here in the southeast. Like Into the WIld and Vicksburg is still with out cinema and the locals are getting restless.
Justin another good point.
I beleive that low attendance and bad movies is what causes the Pemberton Mall Cinema 4 demise. U know its two owners Regel Entertainment Group and then Village Entertainement would run movie trailers of movies that never ran on thier opening dates? It happened. Another fault that could be made against both is this: why wasn’t a new box cinema built? I mean Clinton which is 30 miles away has one. I’ve been going to it and it has class.
I believe Regel missued the boat with the unexpected shift of their teenage market mostly white to the metro urban cinemas just an interstate away. Now when Village Entertainment took over they badly mistreated the property and didn’t a renew marketing research on the why say attendance is down on a Saturday Afternoon. But both catered to the black audiences in the market too much.
By the I saw Beowulf yesterday too.
On the list above I wouldn’t know where to start. But here’s some cinemas here in Vicksburg,Ms which are long gone.
Strand Theatre 1953 destroyed during the ‘53 December twister.
Joy Thearte Single screen torned sometime in the '80s
Original Cinema 4 four screen mulitplex. A stand alone cinema from the now torn down Battlefield Mall.
Pemberton Cinema 4 in the decaying CBL Associates Pemberton Mall/Plaza. Status unknown. Four screen multiplex.
U see the city leaders have never taken care of things historic.
Justin real good point. Here’s another crime that took place in Pemberton Mall here in Vicksburg Ms involving the old closed Mall cinema. One month before the Pemberton Cinema 4 closed theives used the cinema to break in. The crime took place at 530am; they used the cinema to gain access into the mall. The thieves exploited this to go to the local electronic store EB to steal 5 Xboxes 360s. Brand new models.
Also it was partly a crime among the black employees who were employed by Village Entertainment that forced its closing. You see CBL charges high rent and leases on thier property. When more than one store closes in a mall becomes more and more of a criminal envoriment.
Beside high ticket prices which kills a cinema,here’s another factor. Crime. On the local bullinten board some of the locals are relating thier own bad experinces with the old mall cinema. One couple they were threatened by a black youngster; crime has been prevelant in Pemberton Mall as well. But the crime scared them back to thier home where they rent dvds now. I don’t blame them.
In Ridgeland where the Northpark 14 is and in Clinton where the Clinotn 14 is,they’ve been faced with the samething. Now one afternoon when I came out of the Clinton Cinema 14 the Clinton Police were out in force. As for the Pemberon Mall Cinema when it was opened no security nor local police to protect the public.I bet crime in the ccinmea has bee a big facto too.
I can tell you there has been a lot of chatter increase chatter over a cinema. Here’s another fact: Gertrude Young has gone silent about her investors. CBL Associates has been quiet as well. And the locals have been asking questions. And so have touriists. So far I haven’t heard what the chatter is about. But I’d like to know what the hell its all about.
Long Island I was reading UA in front of Southhampton. Makes me think United Artist. The same chain that had the UA cinema here over twenty years ago. It was a four plex screen called the United Artist 4 cinema or something like that. When the old mall cinema opened it closed and was torned down four of five years ago.
I’ve always wanted to see the Hamptons! Bet that theatre is a beautiful one. The one I remember the most is the Joy Theatre which was on Clay street. It had an art deco design. I went to see 2001 there when I was eight years old. Most of the old cinemas around here in vicksburg are here no longer. Now with the old cinema closed due to a business arguement between CBL Associates and Village Entertainment there is no cinema.
I know what u mean about starpower. I saw the film Invasion back in the late summer. Though it failed at the box office I like the fact that it still carried the body snatcher theme. I watched the ‘78 remake on dvd and it had a lot of humor in it too.
I saw most of those on the list. I saw Firefox,ET,Radiers of the Lost Ark.
I can tell you what has been interesting this fall release wise; anti-war Iraq films haven’t been performing to well at all. Rendtion flunked at the box office; as did In the Valley of Ellah. The Kingdom didn’t do to well either. But even Robert Redford’s film the Lion for Lambs performed weak as well. What did it in family films are released too at this time of year. I thought I share that.
I read that BladeRunner the Final Cut was released in a limited release. It’s really ashame that the studio wouldn’t given a broader release here in the southeast. It’s like they snubbed this region of the country which is so dumb. But I’m looking forward to getting the special dvd when its released. I saw BladeRunner in college and I really liked it. I’ve been a big fan of Ridley Scott. All I can say about some of my narrowed minded southeners they tend to sbub artiscal films.
Well I have a Regel Crown entertain card which has been real handy in getting discounts. And lower ticket prices too. I would love to have other discount cards too like from Cinemark too since I’ve been to thier theatres too.
William are you a broadway producer? Just courious. U give real time coverage on the broadway strike here from your end. That last line had me laughing. Even though a stike is no laughing matter.
The Grinch a Musical? Oh My Jim Carrey singing on stage and freaking out all the New Yorkers and tourists. Oh my have we step into the Night Gallery and Twilight Zone. Pardon my sense of humor:) but I was referring to the Grinch film he did with Ron Howard.
the last time there was a strike like this was back in 1988. Now Ben Stein had something real interesting to say about these guilds last night on the O'Reilly pointing the fact that the strikes have weaken the unions. I ask myself how? Now one idea that the tv networks have been floaring around is showing imported tv shows. I figure it’s matter of time before shows like Law and Order and its franchises are affected. And other shows.
Don'r worry I’ve been paying attention to the writer’s guild strike too. It’s beginning to spread to the tv shows. I’m wondering when current films in development are going to feel the heat over this. I heard this could be a long strike too. When the Broadway stagehands went on strike I found that interesting too. Already the new talk is that CBS could affected next with this strike.
Yes, Howard I did find Odeon in via a google search. U see Gertrude Young was bragging about Viacom Inc. So acted on the words she said and I did web search. Now all of sudden she’s real tight lipped about a new cinema.
And thanks for info on the original Odeon and what happened.
This sounds very similar to the closing Pemberton Cinema 4 here in Vickshsurg. U see Village Entertainment got into a feud with CBL Associates who owns and the leases the property. When the two got into the feud over the high rent—CBL shut down the cinema here. But the water lease sounds ominously similar.
Now the employees of Pemberton Cinema 4 under Village Entertainment didn’t care of the property. Like the cinema up there,Pemberton Four is outdated too. It would be better to make a store out of it rather another cinema to be honest.
Like to know how Pemberton Cinema 4 closed? A varitey of factors came into play.
CBL Associates who owns Pemberton Mall got into squabble with Village Entertainment. It was was cuppled with poor management,poor property manamagment as well. Now Village bragged it was going to renovate this cinema in the summer of this year. Never happened. Anyway CBL was due on rent. Now CBL has been losing stores in the old Pemberton Mall due to its high rent. Beside the fighting among black employees,Village refused to pay high rent to CBL. Around the first week or after CBL closed the cinema. But the cinema had a number of bad issues. One of the things was poor maitence of the housing where the cineam screens are. Holes in the ceiling,broken projectors etc.
Here’s an update. One of the former locals Gertrude Young has been running her mouth on the local radio am station here that another cimema is coming. But she hasn’t named the operator. Enough to make one skepitical. CBL has been quiet on the issue too.
I visted the DTS sound website. It’s an interesting website. U can shop for thier products on that samesite too. They also service sound for your home theatre. The coporate site is real interesting to explore becouse it talks about cinema sound. And DTS is a publicly trade corporation too. Just thought I enlighten; I found the site real interesting too. Just enter DTS in the seach engine and it’ll pop up.
I’ve been keeping up with th illegal downloads. Honestly I’d rather experincea film in a cinema than on a pc or home theater to be honest with u. And sound makes a big difference. One time the project broke in the cinema and with the film I saw the optic line on th left side of the film.
You’re right about the farmland being phased out. Even some farmers here going to grow corn in the Delta for biofuels.
Now in Cental Mississippi like in the Jackson Metro area,the captital doesn’t have cinema anymore. Now with the satellite communiiteis around Jackson they’re growing. Madison made the top ten living list and already it has two cineams. The Northpark 14,a box cinema from Northpark Mall,and the Malco 17. Northpark 14 has been having crime issues as well as Cinema 14 Clinton. But if I was the rank the best it would be Tinseltown in Pearl,a stadium cinema.
Now as for Vicksburg’s cinema demise,the Regel Entertaintment Group built that cinema originally. Now when box cinemas returned why didn’t they build one here? I asked that question on thier feedback too. I figure it got sold to Village Entertainment becouse of weak profit margins. Now Regel nor Village didn’t do a marketing study on how to improve cinema at all. They both remained the same in catering to the same audience—blacks and teenagers. Under Village Entertainment the cinema quickly detoratied. And thanks to a few people here they told how lousy of a tenant which Village Entertainment was. Under both Regel and Village I suspect the cinema was losing money becouse the teens were and are going to Jackson Metro area for better films. Listen even some Disney famliy films didn’t open at all. I can tell lousy is subjective but I believe this port got second and third rate films. And when a film was released in Jackson say January it didn’t come to Vicksburg until 6 months later. Case example: Oh Brother Where Art Thou? opens in Jaunary of 2001; opens in May or June of 2001. But most of the films were tailored to the black populace not to the whites.
When I was listening to the local talk radio show this morning. A not so bright banker made the point of his friends illegal downloading films off the internet as cutting into the cinema as well as ticket cost. But he missed that pointed becouse some legel sites to download films are on the way.
Now I don’t work in the industry but I’m a real big film buff. I worked as an extra in Oh Brother where art thou? By the way the films several of them didn’t open here in the southeast. Like Into the WIld and Vicksburg is still with out cinema and the locals are getting restless.
Justin another good point.
I beleive that low attendance and bad movies is what causes the Pemberton Mall Cinema 4 demise. U know its two owners Regel Entertainment Group and then Village Entertainement would run movie trailers of movies that never ran on thier opening dates? It happened. Another fault that could be made against both is this: why wasn’t a new box cinema built? I mean Clinton which is 30 miles away has one. I’ve been going to it and it has class.
I believe Regel missued the boat with the unexpected shift of their teenage market mostly white to the metro urban cinemas just an interstate away. Now when Village Entertainment took over they badly mistreated the property and didn’t a renew marketing research on the why say attendance is down on a Saturday Afternoon. But both catered to the black audiences in the market too much.
By the I saw Beowulf yesterday too.
On the list above I wouldn’t know where to start. But here’s some cinemas here in Vicksburg,Ms which are long gone.
Strand Theatre 1953 destroyed during the ‘53 December twister.
Joy Thearte Single screen torned sometime in the '80s
Original Cinema 4 four screen mulitplex. A stand alone cinema from the now torn down Battlefield Mall.
Pemberton Cinema 4 in the decaying CBL Associates Pemberton Mall/Plaza. Status unknown. Four screen multiplex.
U see the city leaders have never taken care of things historic.
Justin real good point. Here’s another crime that took place in Pemberton Mall here in Vicksburg Ms involving the old closed Mall cinema. One month before the Pemberton Cinema 4 closed theives used the cinema to break in. The crime took place at 530am; they used the cinema to gain access into the mall. The thieves exploited this to go to the local electronic store EB to steal 5 Xboxes 360s. Brand new models.
Also it was partly a crime among the black employees who were employed by Village Entertainment that forced its closing. You see CBL charges high rent and leases on thier property. When more than one store closes in a mall becomes more and more of a criminal envoriment.
Beside high ticket prices which kills a cinema,here’s another factor. Crime. On the local bullinten board some of the locals are relating thier own bad experinces with the old mall cinema. One couple they were threatened by a black youngster; crime has been prevelant in Pemberton Mall as well. But the crime scared them back to thier home where they rent dvds now. I don’t blame them.
In Ridgeland where the Northpark 14 is and in Clinton where the Clinotn 14 is,they’ve been faced with the samething. Now one afternoon when I came out of the Clinton Cinema 14 the Clinton Police were out in force. As for the Pemberon Mall Cinema when it was opened no security nor local police to protect the public.I bet crime in the ccinmea has bee a big facto too.
I can tell you there has been a lot of chatter increase chatter over a cinema. Here’s another fact: Gertrude Young has gone silent about her investors. CBL Associates has been quiet as well. And the locals have been asking questions. And so have touriists. So far I haven’t heard what the chatter is about. But I’d like to know what the hell its all about.
Just how many more cinemas this year has Village Entertainment closed?
Long Island I was reading UA in front of Southhampton. Makes me think United Artist. The same chain that had the UA cinema here over twenty years ago. It was a four plex screen called the United Artist 4 cinema or something like that. When the old mall cinema opened it closed and was torned down four of five years ago.
I’ve always wanted to see the Hamptons! Bet that theatre is a beautiful one. The one I remember the most is the Joy Theatre which was on Clay street. It had an art deco design. I went to see 2001 there when I was eight years old. Most of the old cinemas around here in vicksburg are here no longer. Now with the old cinema closed due to a business arguement between CBL Associates and Village Entertainment there is no cinema.
I know what u mean about starpower. I saw the film Invasion back in the late summer. Though it failed at the box office I like the fact that it still carried the body snatcher theme. I watched the ‘78 remake on dvd and it had a lot of humor in it too.
Hey love Movies that’s what I do. I would go see Lions too despite how it performed at the box office.
I saw most of those on the list. I saw Firefox,ET,Radiers of the Lost Ark.
I can tell you what has been interesting this fall release wise; anti-war Iraq films haven’t been performing to well at all. Rendtion flunked at the box office; as did In the Valley of Ellah. The Kingdom didn’t do to well either. But even Robert Redford’s film the Lion for Lambs performed weak as well. What did it in family films are released too at this time of year. I thought I share that.
You know when BladeRunner was first released in the summer of ‘82 it didn’t come to Vicksburg Ms at all.
I read that BladeRunner the Final Cut was released in a limited release. It’s really ashame that the studio wouldn’t given a broader release here in the southeast. It’s like they snubbed this region of the country which is so dumb. But I’m looking forward to getting the special dvd when its released. I saw BladeRunner in college and I really liked it. I’ve been a big fan of Ridley Scott. All I can say about some of my narrowed minded southeners they tend to sbub artiscal films.
Well I have a Regel Crown entertain card which has been real handy in getting discounts. And lower ticket prices too. I would love to have other discount cards too like from Cinemark too since I’ve been to thier theatres too.
William are you a broadway producer? Just courious. U give real time coverage on the broadway strike here from your end. That last line had me laughing. Even though a stike is no laughing matter.
The Grinch a Musical? Oh My Jim Carrey singing on stage and freaking out all the New Yorkers and tourists. Oh my have we step into the Night Gallery and Twilight Zone. Pardon my sense of humor:) but I was referring to the Grinch film he did with Ron Howard.
the last time there was a strike like this was back in 1988. Now Ben Stein had something real interesting to say about these guilds last night on the O'Reilly pointing the fact that the strikes have weaken the unions. I ask myself how? Now one idea that the tv networks have been floaring around is showing imported tv shows. I figure it’s matter of time before shows like Law and Order and its franchises are affected. And other shows.
Don'r worry I’ve been paying attention to the writer’s guild strike too. It’s beginning to spread to the tv shows. I’m wondering when current films in development are going to feel the heat over this. I heard this could be a long strike too. When the Broadway stagehands went on strike I found that interesting too. Already the new talk is that CBS could affected next with this strike.
I would have to agree. I heard this morning on Fox business that the film industry has lost over 2 billion dollars.
Yes, Howard I did find Odeon in via a google search. U see Gertrude Young was bragging about Viacom Inc. So acted on the words she said and I did web search. Now all of sudden she’s real tight lipped about a new cinema.
And thanks for info on the original Odeon and what happened.
This sounds very similar to the closing Pemberton Cinema 4 here in Vickshsurg. U see Village Entertainment got into a feud with CBL Associates who owns and the leases the property. When the two got into the feud over the high rent—CBL shut down the cinema here. But the water lease sounds ominously similar.
Now the employees of Pemberton Cinema 4 under Village Entertainment didn’t care of the property. Like the cinema up there,Pemberton Four is outdated too. It would be better to make a store out of it rather another cinema to be honest.
Like to know how Pemberton Cinema 4 closed? A varitey of factors came into play.
CBL Associates who owns Pemberton Mall got into squabble with Village Entertainment. It was was cuppled with poor management,poor property manamagment as well. Now Village bragged it was going to renovate this cinema in the summer of this year. Never happened. Anyway CBL was due on rent. Now CBL has been losing stores in the old Pemberton Mall due to its high rent. Beside the fighting among black employees,Village refused to pay high rent to CBL. Around the first week or after CBL closed the cinema. But the cinema had a number of bad issues. One of the things was poor maitence of the housing where the cineam screens are. Holes in the ceiling,broken projectors etc.
Here’s an update. One of the former locals Gertrude Young has been running her mouth on the local radio am station here that another cimema is coming. But she hasn’t named the operator. Enough to make one skepitical. CBL has been quiet on the issue too.
I visted the DTS sound website. It’s an interesting website. U can shop for thier products on that samesite too. They also service sound for your home theatre. The coporate site is real interesting to explore becouse it talks about cinema sound. And DTS is a publicly trade corporation too. Just thought I enlighten; I found the site real interesting too. Just enter DTS in the seach engine and it’ll pop up.
I’ve been keeping up with th illegal downloads. Honestly I’d rather experincea film in a cinema than on a pc or home theater to be honest with u. And sound makes a big difference. One time the project broke in the cinema and with the film I saw the optic line on th left side of the film.
You’re right about the farmland being phased out. Even some farmers here going to grow corn in the Delta for biofuels.
Now in Cental Mississippi like in the Jackson Metro area,the captital doesn’t have cinema anymore. Now with the satellite communiiteis around Jackson they’re growing. Madison made the top ten living list and already it has two cineams. The Northpark 14,a box cinema from Northpark Mall,and the Malco 17. Northpark 14 has been having crime issues as well as Cinema 14 Clinton. But if I was the rank the best it would be Tinseltown in Pearl,a stadium cinema.
Now as for Vicksburg’s cinema demise,the Regel Entertaintment Group built that cinema originally. Now when box cinemas returned why didn’t they build one here? I asked that question on thier feedback too. I figure it got sold to Village Entertainment becouse of weak profit margins. Now Regel nor Village didn’t do a marketing study on how to improve cinema at all. They both remained the same in catering to the same audience—blacks and teenagers. Under Village Entertainment the cinema quickly detoratied. And thanks to a few people here they told how lousy of a tenant which Village Entertainment was. Under both Regel and Village I suspect the cinema was losing money becouse the teens were and are going to Jackson Metro area for better films. Listen even some Disney famliy films didn’t open at all. I can tell lousy is subjective but I believe this port got second and third rate films. And when a film was released in Jackson say January it didn’t come to Vicksburg until 6 months later. Case example: Oh Brother Where Art Thou? opens in Jaunary of 2001; opens in May or June of 2001. But most of the films were tailored to the black populace not to the whites.
When I was listening to the local talk radio show this morning. A not so bright banker made the point of his friends illegal downloading films off the internet as cutting into the cinema as well as ticket cost. But he missed that pointed becouse some legel sites to download films are on the way.