DuPage Theater

109 S. Main Street,
Lombard, IL 60148

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DMS
DMS on September 29, 2005 at 8:45 am

There is absolutely NOTHING hasty about demolishing the theatre.

It’s been shuttered and closed for over a decade.

The village has allowed the Friends to find a FAIR restoration plan for 6 LONG years while the rest of us had to stare at that neglected building that has been crumbling right before our eyes.

The SAT grant was a joke – it required a 50 year lease of the property for a measly $300K. That amount is a drop in the proverbial bucket and a 50 year lease – yeah right, that’s going to happen…

There was no blunder – the village notified the Park Service they no longer needed the grant…news flash…THE BUILDING IS BEING DEMOLISHED! Let the foundation hang on to the grant – pretty soon, they will have to reject it as well.

The Illinois First million would not have helped all the other problems and deficiencies the RSC plan had, so it should and did go to another worthy cause.

raymond
raymond on September 29, 2005 at 8:23 am

The National Park Service says the village of Lomard IS NOT AUTHORIZED to REJECT the $296,000.00 FEDERAL SAVE AMERICA TREASURES GRANT that was AWARDED to the village of Lombard and the Dupage Theatre Foundation.
Only the grantee {THE DUPAGE THEATRE FOUNDATION )can request cancellation of or refuse the grant.
This according to the acting chief of the Historic Preservation Grants Division of the National Park Service Mr. Hamilton Tucker.
This is an astonishing BLUNDER by the village legal dept.
The village board formally refused the $1,000,000.00 Illinois First grant money (some village board members said that money would never come) and then the State of Illinois releases $195 million of grant money.
Compound blunders.“Haste makes waste"
Makes you wonder what is really going on.

DuPageDude
DuPageDude on September 29, 2005 at 6:52 am

I just read that the National Park Service Save Our Treasure’s grant is still going to the Theatre, they ignored the Village’s request to deny the grant, since it was made out to the Foundation, NOT the Village. Now there is a lawsuit that, from what I hear, is SUPPORTED by the State and Federal goverments. Lombard’s really, really, looking bad right now; here’s it’s own citizens and the 2 highest forms of goverment in the land that sees the much-needed value this project would bring to an underdeveloped area for it’s residents, and the Village Board feels that it would rather see an empty lot. The Board is really mad because people outside their little sphere of influence have become involved, and they will have to do A LOT OF EXPLAINING. I can’t wait!!

Forget Houston, LOMBARD, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!!

raymond
raymond on September 28, 2005 at 5:12 am

From today’s Daily herald.

www.dailyherald.com/community/zone.asp?id=98958&zone=nap

I knew that it was a MISTAKE for Lombard to officailly reject the
Illinois grant of $1,000,000.00 .

My concern about the OFFICIAL rejection of the $1,000,000.00
GRANT money from the State of Illinois was ah the timing.

DMS
DMS on September 27, 2005 at 3:26 pm

Duper-

You, as usual, are talking out of both sides of your mouth. When you were trying to avoid the board’s demolition vote – you claimed “We don’t need the 1 Million, the plan is fully funded whether the money comes through or not!”… NOW you say “All state and federal grants were always part of the restoration plan” Which is it? Do you even know?

I’m so glad that it no longer matters, I hated that RSC plan. It was a stinker and it is gone for good. I believe the only ones with egg on their face is you and your “friends” who thought you were going to waltz in and build that giant condo building in the name of preservation only to find out a group of your fellow residents, who have had enough of your double talk, pulled the rug right out from under you.

If there’s a way to save the theatre without breaking codes that uses more private dollars – bring it on, otherwise quit debating the RSC plan. It is, in fact, a dead horse.

DuPageDude
DuPageDude on September 27, 2005 at 1:10 pm

A few interesting points. The Morton Arboretum, just down the road from Lombard, recieved a MILLION DOLLARS from the State today. This is in addition to millions they have already recieved from similar sources. Was this the million that was destined for Lombard? Probably, since they both applied for the money at about the same time.

In a move of sheer hypocrisy, the Village of Lombard Board accepted several hundred thousand TAX DOLLARS for the Lombard Park District. Apparently Lombard know tells the State of Illinois what it’s going to do. We’ll see how long that lasts, before some people come down and start asking some hard questions…

raymond
raymond on September 27, 2005 at 12:57 pm

Dupe neighbor,
I am not Kevin. So wipe some more EGG off of your face.
When the R.S.C.development and Dupage Theatre restoration funding PRO FORMA ANALYSIS was presented to the village board of trustees it DID include the Illinois grant and the federal grants.
All state and federal grants were always part of the restoration plans.
As a matter of FACT,the village of Lombard and the village board of trustees INSTRUCTED THE Dupage Theatre Foundation to seek and GET
as many grants as was possible.Also the village board approved and released T.I.F. funds for that very purpose.
So you and your anti- theatre preservationists can wipe some more EGG off of your face.

raymond
raymond on September 27, 2005 at 12:50 pm

Dupe neighbor,
I am not Kevin. So wipe some more EGG off of your face.
When the R.S.C.development and Dupage Theatre restoration funding PRO FORMA ANALYSIS was presented to the village board of trustees it DID include the Illinois grant and the federal grants.
All state and federal grants were always part of the restoration plans.
As a matter of FACT,the village of Lombard and the village board of trustees INSTRUCTED THE Dupage Theatre Foundation to seek and GET
as many grants as was possible.Also the village board approved and released T.I.F. funds for that very purpose.
So you and your anti- theatre preservationists can wipe some more EGG off of your face.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on September 27, 2005 at 12:19 pm

Is duper really fitzpatrick? No wonder his emails never make sense.

DMS
DMS on September 27, 2005 at 12:03 pm

Duper/Kevin-

I thought the “fully funded” plan didn’t really even need the grant money so what do you care?

Let that million go the battered women’s shelter or the transitional living place mentioned – those PEOPLE really need the states help. In the case of our BUILDING…it wouldn’t have made much of a difference.

melders
melders on September 27, 2005 at 8:18 am

Challenger will you give up on the $1200 thing? You have been proven wrong about that every time you say it. Another question, has the city ever put the theater up for sale?

raymond
raymond on September 27, 2005 at 8:05 am

From today’s Daily Daily Herald.

www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=98663

About the $1,000,000.00 state grant.One should never say never.

Unfortunately, the Lombard village board officially refused all grants.
$1,000,000.00 grant money from the State of Illinois that the Lombard village board refused.Some board members said that the 1,000,000.00 grant probably would NEVER COME.
They should learn to NEVER SAY NEVER.
I hope that the ANTI -PRESERVATIONISTS can wipe wipe the EGG off their faces.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on September 27, 2005 at 5:07 am

duper you lied about the meetings, the petition, and the rally figures and dupe neighbor verified that fact. You are wrong about the $1200, that is what we were told back in March 2005. Wht don’t you make your finances public? Because you are scared! Because that will prove that support is not there.

raymond
raymond on September 26, 2005 at 9:08 pm

Challenger I am waiting for your response . Will you please show us where I have posted lies,mis-information and other related rhetoric about the R.S.C. DEVELOPMENT and theatre proposal,and the Friends of the Dupage Theatre?

DMS
DMS on September 26, 2005 at 6:41 pm

Duper – you are hallucinating about those board meetings. I was there too. The April meeting was NOT packed and the June 2 meeting was NOT a special meeting but just a regular board meeting that included a vote for demolition. Most of the people in the audience that night were there to discuss the building expansion plans for the Lutheran church in town! There was also a group of my neighbors and myself who were OPPOSED to the RSC plan. After the church vote – more than half the room emptied out.

And the Sept 1 meeting was FULL of residents there about the cell tower issue.

Statements like yours that are so blatantly false, cause your credibility to take a serious nose dive.

C'mon pal – this schoolroom banter of “I have more friends than you do!” is SO STUPID it makes people sick.

If you thought you had such village wide support – you should have put your money where your oversized mouth is and PUT THIS ISSUE ON A BALLOT! But NO – you resisted until moment zero and by then it was too late. I still maintain that was a crucial error on your part because now you’re reduced to inflating petition and rally numbers to prove support….BIG MISTAKE…when will you admit it?

raymond
raymond on September 26, 2005 at 5:53 pm

Challenger You are WRONG.If you want to call young adults [TEEN AGERS AGES 13THROUGH 19 little children then you are wrong.]
I will stand by on my statement and repeat that your claim is RIDICULOUS.
As far as the number of supporters at the board meetings I will also stand on my statements.I was present at those board meetings.
I {UNLIKE YOU ) am not AFRAID to attend village board meetings and risk possibly being trashed by your little group of ANTI-PRESERVATIONISTS
and FRIEND haters who hide in the shadows and won’t speak publily and make their presence known.
Challenger says there is only 1200 dollars in donations.
Another RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.Funny how you say there is only 1200 dollars in donations when THE FRIENDS HAVE NEVER MADE THEIR FINANCES PUBLIC.
Isn’t it amazing how the friends sure know how to stretch a dollar.Everything ,all of the signs all of the flyers and descriptions of the R.S.C. PROPOSAL from April till now.All of this on $1200.How ridiculous your statements are.
Challenger I will make a deal with you.You called me a BIG LIAR.
You say I post mis-information,lies and other rhetoric .
I say that YOU (CHALLENGER )post the mis-information,lies and other rhetoric.I CHALLENGE you to show me where I have LIED or POSTED MIS-INFORMATION.
Through the years I have attended many village board meetings
about the Dupage theatre,video taped the board meetings and reviewed
and logged the minutes of those board meetings.
So I know of what I speak.
I will wait your response.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on September 26, 2005 at 4:39 pm

WRONG, I was approached at the taste with my family and they said I could include all my children. The 4500 signatures included many children and even your communication director verified that fact. The meeting that went on until meeting was not standing room only. Only 1000 or so were registered voters.

Don’t forget the meeting crowd had so-called anti-preservation people in it, besides room only hold 75. So basically you are saying that everybody who supports it was there.

duper you are a big liar, and I have caught you numerous times. You argue ridiculous facts (standing room only..please). If there was such great support why only $1200 in donations??? That is why I chose this name…challenger…because I felt it was necessary to challenge your statements, figures, and other mistruths.

I will make a deal with you, quit posting misinformation, lies, and other rhetoric, and I will quit posting on this website (unless melders asks me a question).

raymond
raymond on September 26, 2005 at 2:02 pm

Medlers, one the requirements of the petition [signature drive ] was that the signers MUST SIGN their own name and must put their address and if they are Lombard residents the VOTING DISTRICT that they are in.
Although NOT impossible, I seriously doubt that a 5 ,3 and 2 year old child would be able to meet those requirements.I would also add that they WOULD NOT IN ANY MANNER EVER HAVE BEEN ASKED to sign the petition (signature) drive.
It is a TOTALLY ridiculous statement by “Chalenger” and as far as I am concerned need not be persued as a topic of discussion on that
very basis.
The April 27 2005 board meeting lasted almost if not past midnight when the dupage theatre was discussed ,the follow up SPECIAL village board meeting about the dupage theatre only lasted till almost midnight.
All these plus more were full house standing room only.
Challenger seems to forget these.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on September 26, 2005 at 1:13 pm

Melders, The Board meeting was standing room only because of the cell tower issue. When that issue was resolved there we about 25 people left. Board meetings are attended by residents whether or not the Dupe is on the agenda. Plus out of the remaining 25, at least 7 were so-called anti-preservationist, leaving you with about 18 friends. Get you facts straight please.

Answer my question: Please tell me how counting my 3 children (ages 5, 3, and 2) as part of your scientific poll counts?

raymond
raymond on September 26, 2005 at 12:41 pm

Well Challenger I was wrong on the 45,000.It was a type error.I apologize for the type error.At least I can apologize when I am wrong.
Correction.The “friends” collected “4,500” signatures of people that did NOT want the theatre demolished.
Challenger #3 key words . “Nobody supports this place ”
Challenger maybe you can tell us that by asking people at soccer games, restaurants ,bars,church,festivals,block parties,neighbors homes ect.“that nobody supports the this place."
Challenger I have attended the same types public and private gatherings that you have for quite a number of years now and I can tell you that the people that I have talked to at these functions and events for the most part are VERY SUPPORTIVE of the theatre and the "friends” efforts to save and restore the theatre.
Challenger says it is the same 18 people who attend board meetings, appear in the local tabloid ,gather signatures ECT.[Challenger says “TABLOID” because the NEWSPAPER IS FOR PRESERVING the Theatre and donates space to the friends]
Challenger is correct.It is the same 18 people PLUS a WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE.There have been numerous village board meetings when there was standing room only ( even past midnight) when the village board was PUBLICLY SCRUTINIZING ,DISECTING ,ANALYZING,DEBATING AND OPINIONATING ON THE Dupage Theatre.

RestorationRita
RestorationRita on September 26, 2005 at 12:30 pm

Court petitions were filed this morning to prevent the demolition of the DuPage Theatre on behalf of the Friends of the DuPage Theatre and the Lombard Historical Commission.

DuPagefiends
DuPagefiends on September 26, 2005 at 8:56 am

duper when did they submit 45,000??? I thought it was 4,500, or did you just run off ten copies and turn them in? Anybody notice how the number keeps growing miraculously?!?!

You said 3 (THREE) key words, yet listed only 2, what was the 3rd one?

I never said it was a scientific or unscientific poll. Tell me how your poll of asking random people, and their children, from all over if they support the theatre without telling them that tax money is involved is a ‘scientific’ poll? Please tell me how counting my 3 children (ages 5, 3, and 2) as part of your scientific poll counts?

All I was doing was answering Melders question(s).