Century Theatre

12 Mary Street,
Hamilton, ON L81 1A5

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Brian Morton
Brian Morton on April 29, 2008 at 6:30 am

Mark:

The roof of the Tivoli’s auditorium is ok as far as I know. It was in very good shape back in 1991 – 1992 anyway when I worked in the building, and I have no reason to believe that it has deteriorated much since then.

Most of the urban spelunkers take only pictures, so even on that score I think the TIV is ok, although I agree it would be better if the building had more regular security.

The question is can the Ballet raise the $10 million. Scuttlebutt says they are in the middle of a feasibility study in order to secure provincial and federal grant money for a restoration. I hope that they get it!

The Century sadly has no such allies.. and has been empty and unheated since Sept 1989. WE made a proposal to the owners in 1991, but they went with a group that wanted to open a night club.. Sadly this never opened.

hamiltonmark
hamiltonmark on April 29, 2008 at 5:32 am

Brian. I checked out the web site for the present owners but I did not find any information about what they are doing to prevent any further damage to the Tivoli auditorium such as a new roof which is desperatly needed from what I understand or keeping it secure from people entering it without permision.(if you know what I mean.)
One last comment, it is funny that the only part of the Century that is protected is the front part of the theatre and compared to the rest of the building it is in the worst of shape.Mark.

ParticleMan
ParticleMan on April 28, 2008 at 5:27 pm

I have ascended that ladder up into the space above the 1940’s cinema. You get a view of the collapsed roof which fell on what is left of the balcony. It’s worth the scary climb.

The parts of the building that are in worst condition are the front and rear offices. In both areas, the floors have completely rotted right through. The floors of the 2nd floor on top of the lobby are completely collapsed through now (no ceiling to the lobby any more).

Brian, I wasn’t able to find your e-mail on here. If you’d like to contact me at sugarton at gmail.com feel free to do so.

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on April 28, 2008 at 5:02 pm

One last comment for today.. The balcony of the Lyric was removed in 1940, and the fire exits were bricked up. You can still see this today on both sides of the building – the line of the original balcony, which clearly goes below what is the 1940’s cinema roof line. Again this is clearer on the blueprints.

In 1990 before the collapse, (which I am guessing happened within the last 5 years), only the very back of the balcony, what would have been called the mezzanine, was still there, there was part of what looked like a railing, with some steps, and there were the side walls of the Lyric with gold paint and stenciled decor. There was also a rickety wooden ladder that went up about 25 feet into a giant round air conditioning duct/intake. This led to a hatch that came out on the roof.

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on April 28, 2008 at 4:40 pm

The damage to the Century BTW is only to the first 20 feet of the building, and was the only part of the roof not replaced in renovations in 1955 – I have a copy of the blueprint for this renovation. I have also been in this space myself so I know exactly what I am talking about. Clearly there has been water damage to the lobby area and the former rooming/boarding house on the third floor is obviously uninhabitable, but these areas of the building had been abandoned even when Famous Players was still using it as a movie house. What is dooming the Century is not the damage to the building, rather a lack of any will to save it. The current owners just see it as a location for potential development, and are waiting for someone to come along and offer them money for the property. If holding onto it becomes to expensive, they will likely demolish it.

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on April 28, 2008 at 4:28 pm

Mark: I am much more hopeful about the Tivoli. It is a newer building, (built in 1924). Also the present owners the Canadian Youth Ballet intend to restore it as a theatre, see their website here. http://www.cbye.ca/ccampaign.htm Other then some water damage to the plaster on the SR side of the auditorium the Tivoli theatre is in good shape. It just needs the front of the building replaced in order to re-open again.
The Century, though much of its historic fabric was gutted in 1940, is historically a much more interesting building. As the centre of Kieth-Albee Vaudeville in Hamilton, many noted performers graced its stage, eg The Marx Brothers in Sept. 1919. Its stage was constructed for legitamante tehatre, and it was home to sveral “stock” companies who produced plays.

hamiltonmark
hamiltonmark on April 28, 2008 at 4:32 am

With the resent collaping of a building in the Lister Block ( not the Lister building) a short distance away from this theatre, time only knows if this could happen to this theatre. The roof collaped on a historic but vacant building causing a chain reaction floor by floor. The building was torn down this past week. With the roof on the front half of the Century theatre already collaped,this could happen as well. DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT is common in Hamilton when buildings are left to rot. The auditorium of what’s left of the Tivoli could be next as well. Mark

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on April 27, 2008 at 2:03 am

Thanks very much for this image… Did you take others from the opposite angle? The most intact and historic parts of the Lyric are the backstage areas ironically, everything else was gutted in the 1940’s.

Looks like someone has left the hatch open in the grid… That’s the natural light you are seeing. To prevent more damage hopefully that can be closed by someone.

The fly gallery is the opposite side of the stage – two flights of stairs, first one runs up to what is called the “pin rail”, the next flight of stairs leads up to the “grid”…. The catwalk that runs across the back of the stage is called a “paint-frame”, because it was used to paint soft backdrops, which was the majority of the scenery required in those early days…

I would be grateful for photos of all of these features, next time someone gets in there.

BTW You were standing in the very spot were in September 1919, the Marx Brothers were performing in a play called N'EVERYTHING.

I have B&W images of my own from 1990, but they are grainy and out of focus.

Particleman if you would be kind enough to email me privately about using some of your photos in the research I am doing on the building.. Thanks!

ParticleMan
ParticleMan on April 27, 2008 at 1:15 am

Here is a photo I took in the area behind the stage today. It was my first time going back into Lyric for awhile. The place is even more of a death trap than it was before, but I still love it.

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The history in this place is so rich. I wish I could have seen the place 20 years ago.

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on March 9, 2008 at 8:08 pm

If anyone else gets into this theatre again would they please grab some pictures of the former backstage area on the east side of the building? Particularly the paint frame and the fly gallary/railings

You may have to brings some lights with you – this area likely doesn’t have any illumination at all…

Thanks

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on February 19, 2008 at 5:08 am

Yes I have done this with google maps myself… The part of the roof on the westside of the structure that has caved in is the last bit of the original 1912 roof… The part that was not replaced in 1954.

Ironically the most intact and important historical parts of the Century theatre are the backstage areas of the 1912 Lyric vaudeville palace which were left just as storage after the proscenium arch was bricked up in 1940… The grid, the hemp fly gallary and the original dressing rooms, and a huge paint frame used to paint scenic drops are still intact in the east end of the building…

hamiltonmark
hamiltonmark on February 19, 2008 at 3:33 am

After logging into Google Earth, you can see the section of the roof that has caved in. It is the front section where the office were and where the balcony was. The rest of the roof appears to be intact for the time being(of coarse).

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on February 18, 2008 at 8:34 am

I also have a blueprint I found in the office on the second floor showing the 1954 renovations where the Lyric’s original ceiling was removed and the current flat roof was installed… Sprachman was the architect I recall

There are still elements of the Lyric auditorium left on the side walls at the back and parts of the original pros arch plaster work are a groove between the current ceiling and the fly gallery.

It was renamed Century in 1940 when bough by 20th Century Theatres They built a smaller one level cinema within the shell of the old 2000 seat vaudeville palace…

Brian Morton
Brian Morton on February 18, 2008 at 8:27 am

I have only one image of the Lyric Theatre (1912-1940) interior and that is a bad photocopy from a microfilm of the Hamilton Herald Newspaper article – a Christmas concert for orphans from the 1913 taken from the stage and showing the auditorium with its large sweeping balcony.. I will see if I can dig it up again…

The Marx Brothers played the Century in a stage show in 1924 BTW…

Also backstage on the paint frame back in 1990, I found a poster saying “LYRIC THEATRE HIGHCLASS KIETH/ALBEE VAUDEVILLE”.. The back of it had been used to mix paint for backdrops…

oldusher
oldusher on October 25, 2007 at 5:23 am

Hi Skye,
I’ve been trying to contact former employees of the Century Theatre.
Please contact me at
Regards,
Al Burt

hamiltonmark
hamiltonmark on October 24, 2007 at 6:45 pm

After visiting the Hamilton Library,I found out that The original ceiling was removed when the false ceiling was put in. There were also four chandellers that were also removed. Unfortunatly, there are no pictures on file of the inside of the Lyric/Century before the conversion. Mark

ParticleMan
ParticleMan on October 7, 2007 at 7:39 pm

It does. It’s just too far gone to be saved. I think, even at the time of closure the building wasn’t doing all that great. Lots of repairs would have had to be made right then to preserve it.

The roof has been caved in for many years now. Probably only 5-10 years after it was abandoned.

trofis
trofis on October 7, 2007 at 4:25 pm

On my recent visit the downtown BIA, I was infomed that the plans for the property of the Lyric are still underway. They are awaiting for a parking permit which will house a multi-level parkade right across the street. This will also be used for parking for the police station. According to the BIA, and the blueprints, the Lyric itself will be eliminated, keeping only the facade. Plans are still underway for the property to be condos, scheduled for 2008-2010. Kind of sad, but with the condition of that building, makes a lot of sense.

ParticleMan
ParticleMan on October 7, 2007 at 8:49 am

Oh, and here’s a picture I took this past week of the Century. Still the same as always…

View link

ParticleMan
ParticleMan on October 7, 2007 at 8:48 am

Thank you very much for posting all that information, Skye. I wish I could see what the theatre looked like before it closed. See what you had seen so many times. I’ve explored the theatre many times myself since 2005, many of those times with Bryan and Mike who also posted pictures and information here. The theatre holds a special place with me as well, and I’ve only seen it in it’s depressing form.

With all that said, the building is nearly a death trap now. The front office area is completely unsafe to traverse. The wooden floors are rotted right through. Both my feet fell through the floor, and I was saved by a support beam that I fell onto. Bryan was unlucky enough to completely fall right through the front offices, to the floor below. If you do go into the theatre, BE CAREFUL.

Skye
Skye on October 1, 2007 at 6:00 am

PPS: The Century had only 705 seats when iot closed. It was refurbished in 1964 or 1965 and it wa then that they eliminated some seating. They still had reserve seating for some special attraction too. The ticket bos was right behind the cashier in the “new box office” The old box office was outside and glassed in. My God the memories!

Skye
Skye on October 1, 2007 at 5:52 am

For Al Burt: I remember your name. You knew my dad and my bothers Doug and Mike Marriott. Mary Poppins was the first picture I think I saw there. Do you remember Mrs. Wade, Charlie Jarvis, Loretta Stremble, Arlene Belleck, Mike Hogan?

Skye
Skye on October 1, 2007 at 5:37 am

hello, I can’t tell you how delighted I was to stumble upon this website. My father (Verdun Marriott) ran the Century Theatre for many years. Some of the people you mentioned were friends of his. I virtually grew up around theatres specifically the Century and all of our family worked there over the years. My dad moved to Famous Players Head Office later on but the Century was always his favourite. He was well liked by the community whether it be reporters from the Spectator, the nuns that he bused in to see Sound of Music, movie stars, politicians or the same bunch that came in every Sunday…everyone was treated special at that theatre. The matron there on Saturdays and Sundays was named Mrs. Evangeline Wade, the best lady you could ever meet. She used to watch us when my mother had to look after my brother who was frequently ill. I remember watching movies in the projection booth or through the trap door window in the manager’s office. The backstage rooms are old dressing rooms from the days of vaudiville. I found newspapers from the world wars in there. The coal bins were there too. I have original furniture and ashtrays from there. My name is written on the wall in the lobby. Originally it was hidden by a hinged poster board and a drape. I have programs and posters that were my dad’s as well. We used to go through a trap door in the second floor ceiling. We went above the suspended ceiling on catwalks and saw your balconies. I heard them called opera boxes as well. Also the drapes were indeed orginally red velvet. Did you know that the Century is haunted? There is also the true story of the vaudiville actor who killed his wife and her lover backstage and I heard a version where he then killed himself but someone has since told me that he was convicted and hung at Barton Street Jail. I have often thought of the Century. I ran it for awhile while I was in University at McMaster. I went by there about ten or so years ago and the door was open. The person there allowed me to go up into my dad’s old office. It was then that he gave me one of the orginal black glass ashtrays and a rubber stamp bearing the Century’s theatre number. I remember the phone number 527-7861 or ja-77861. Pretty good huh? I may know you Mike16. Anyway you can write to me at Skye

mrchangeover
mrchangeover on May 30, 2007 at 11:57 pm

Mike:

Thanks again!
I was looking at the projectionist list photo and at the bottom is a phone number for the union at the Palace Theatre.
Thats because the projectionist at the Palace at that time (around 1960) was Hugh Usher…. who was also the President of the union local.

Lovesickphoto
Lovesickphoto on May 30, 2007 at 6:42 pm

Yes, the perfect things for memories are photographs and artifacts. I do indeed have some shots of the projection room. Follow this link and you’ll be greeted to a few. View link
-Mike