TCL Chinese Theatre

6925 Hollywood Boulevard,
Los Angeles, CA 90028

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Escott O. Norton
Escott O. Norton on April 22, 2013 at 11:38 pm

I was one of the docents for the LAHTF tour, and have been going to the Chinese since I was a kid. LOTS of great memories, and the day spent learning about the theater and sharing it with people is now one of them. My first thought was like most: “Don’t change my Chinese Theatre!” But The LA Historic Theatre Foundation has developed a good relationship with the new owners. From what I have been told and seen in plans the renovation is going to be good for the theater, and for the audience. I agree with the writer above who remembers seeing full houses in the Chinese, and I think this renovation will help bring that back. For those interested, I recommend connecting with LAHTF. You will get the latest info from people who know and care, and who are working very hard for the Chinese and al of the Los Angeles area movie palaces. www.LAHTF.org

KramSacul
KramSacul on April 21, 2013 at 3:24 pm

I think this is one of those projects where we really have to wait and see how it turns out. It could be great or it could be a disaster (Egyptian theater). I just hope that when I walk into this new Grauman’s it won’t be like they forcefully jammed an IMAX theater inside.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on April 21, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RogerA: Try typing lacurbed.com and searching for Chinese Theatre.

I REALLY don’t see Disney allowing Thor 2 in IMAX AND at the El Cap at the same darn time. Ditto for Avengers 2…although, for the sake of history, they may make an exception for Star Wars Episode VII

I predict their grand reopening title will be Hunger Games: Catching Fire. It makes no sense to open in September/October. No hot titles (unless you count “Gravity” w/Sandra Bullock & George Clooney set in outer space).

Cliffs
Cliffs on April 21, 2013 at 12:23 am

Alright, went to the LAHTF tour of the Chinese this morning and got some info that may or may not be of comfort to people. I got a moment to talk to one the main presenters (not a tour guide, but one of the guys who seemed to be working with the new managers on the retrofit) and asked him a few questions. Now, again, these answers don’t come from the source, but they come from a source WORKING with the source.

First, I asked about the curtain and he seemed to think (as did a few people there) that they would be replicating the Chinese’s curtain, only longer to cover the full IMAX height (as can be seen in the Curbed LA link Chris posted above). I asked if they would also be including top and bottom masking so that they could bring the screen ratio back to a normal scope ratio when not showing IMAX (or when simply showing 2.40:1 in the IMAX frame, ala Trek ‘08). He was less sure about that, but still seemed more positive than not.

With regard to the bookings… IMAX will be booking this theater directly. Basically… if it opens in IMAX, it opens at the Chinese. It certainly appears that the Chinese is going to co-book with Arclight for most movies (and maybe the El Capitan). I look at this as potentially great news because it’s going to force the Arclight to stop all the 3D in the Dome non-sense. I can’t imagine most people willing to sit through mediocre 3D in the Dome when far superior 3D on a bigger screen is going to be just a few minutes down the street. If given the choice between 3D IMAX or 2D Dome, I’ll take 2D Dome. I hope this forces that option.

As for the renovation, I’m kind of OK with it for a few reasons. A) The Chinese has always been a theater to keep up with film as it evolved. In 1958 they destroyed the proscenium and widened the screen to 92' for Windjammer and that’s about the width we’ve been accustomed to with modern widescreen movies (actually 35mm and 70mm was usually closer to 75/85'‘ wide if the numbers I found are correct). This is no different except they’re going 'down’ instead of ‘across’ this time. B) They’re not going to be disturbing any of the walls/ceiling/ornamentation (quite the opposite… they’re actually fixing things that have been neglected for years) and C) the slope of the auditorium is not going to be nearly as drastic (and “stadium-y” as I once believed it would. Basically they are going to go down about 10/12' into the basement and bring the back of the auditorium back up to the lobby level. It’s going to be much more gradual than a traditional IMAX theater. It seems like the screen is actually going to have a ratio of approximately 2:1. Not the super tall 1.4:1 that Universal and The Rave have. I could be wrong about that, but with a screen 95' wide and only going down another 10/12', it’s going to make the screen height about 45/50'. And while they’re taking out all of the old seats (which need it) they’re even exploring finding high back chairs that look the same.

Overall, would I rather have the Chinese of my youth when it was THE most happening theater in world and could consistently draw the big crowds with the latest and greatest blockbusters? Sure, but just as television put the hurt on them and forced them to adapt to widescreen to survive and thrive… so it seems that the multiplex has nearly choked the life out of it again and without the IMAX conversion, the Chinese would be in danger of becoming the world’s most famous looking office building. The good news is that the surgery to save her this time is minor and mostly plastic.

I took a bunch of pics throughout the tour, if you’d like to see what she still looks like for another 10 days, be my guest: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4726283275338.1073741825.1242342310&type=1&l=a1d0847221

RogerA
RogerA on April 20, 2013 at 9:18 pm

Chris that link you posted doesn’t work

Cliffs
Cliffs on April 20, 2013 at 12:45 am

I know it’s blasphemous, but I’m not HATIN' it so far.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on April 19, 2013 at 11:54 pm

Before and after renderings of the remodel:

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/see_the_changes_coming_soon_to_the_tcl_chinese_theatre.php

clevelandphil
clevelandphil on April 18, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Good news folks! You can see Tyler Perry movies in Imax for a nominal fee of 30 bucks.

Chris Utley
Chris Utley on April 17, 2013 at 6:52 pm

Y'all know doggone well that Disney WILL NOT allow any of their titles to play in any other Hollywood theatre not named El Capitan!

IMAX has pimped themselves so hard through their theatre retrofits that now it’s commonplace to see them bouncing multiple titles through their different theatres. In Cliff’s scenario above, Star Trek may leave Chinese when Fast and Furious 6 opens…but it would most likely continue to play at AMC Universal Citywalk and/or AMC Century 15. The addition to IMAX at Chinese gives IMAX gives them a much bigger playing field to work with: Rave & AMC Century to the west, Chinese & Citywalk to the north, and AMC Burbank to the slightly farther north. With 5 theatres to play with (and we haven’t event talked the suburbs yet), I don’t think booking will be that much of a pain for IMAX!

Cliffs
Cliffs on April 17, 2013 at 1:06 am

I think the booking rules are going to be to one of the biggest questions that needs to be answered. Don’t forget… even with the IMAX overhaul, the Chinese still has the same problem that got them into a competitive disadvantage. Outside of the main screen, they just don’t have the seat count to compete with Arclight. Arclight can open a summer tentpole in the Dome (and 3 other screens) and then move that Dome show out the next week to replace it with something else. It’s like a funnel over there and there are 15 screens that make up that funnel. By the time ‘42’ leaves there in about 4 weeks it’ll have probably seen 5 different sized theaters from about 1000 seats total first week to about 70/80 in week 4. The Chinese doesn’t have that funnel. They still won’t have the move-over screens to ensure they get every big movie.

I think the only way this works (and in an ideal world, this is the way to do it) is the Chinese is able to book “IMAX Experience” films independent of the Arclight and El Capitan. I made the point last week that I think there’s a strong case to be made that the “IMAX Experience” versions are like totally different films because they aren’t something that Arclight or El Capitan can show. They’re always listed differently on Fandango, Movie Tickets.com, and are listed separately with AMC and Regal Theaters. Arclight and El Capitan can still book the standard versions and the Chinese 6 would compete for those films as well. But most IMAX runs are only for a week or two anyway and it isn’t like the IMAX version gets ‘moved-over’ to a smaller theater or nearby IMAX when a new IMAX Experience opens. They all show Jurassic for 2 weeks, then get rid of it for Oblivion (which will play for 2 weeks) until Iron Man 3 on May 3rd plays for 2 weeks before Star Trek moves in where it’ll only get a week before Fast and Furious 6 on May 24th. This is pretty standard across all multiplex IMAX.

IF Arclight and the Chinese are allowed to co-book IMAX versus standard, this could have a really great side effect (if Arclight is smart). I’m someone who is pretty averse to 3D. I think it’s a FAR bigger distraction than it is an immersion. The thing that REALLY irritates me with 3D is the way the chains have been using their biggest and best theaters to pimp 3D at the exclusion of those who don’t want or can’t enjoy 3D. Want to see Star Trek in the Dome… better like 3D. Add to that that the Dome 3D is probably the worst in the country and it becomes infuriating that one of my favorite theaters is totally off limits unless I want to A) put up with 3D and B) put up with AWFUL 3D. BUT… If the Chinese is getting Amazing Spider-Man 2 in IMAX 3D and Arclight is getting it in standard, Arclight would be IDIOTS to try and pit the Dome 3D against IMAX 3D just a few blocks away. It may actually force them to try and regain a bit of their dignity and position themselves as the “best place to see these blockbusters in 2D,” which is something people have been complaining and begging for, only to have Arclight turn a deaf ear. In short… it may force Arclight to actually have to try and care again.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 16, 2013 at 11:47 pm

Why the hell is someone’s picture with My space ???

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 16, 2013 at 10:28 pm

Dolby atmos is irrelevant in the issue of picture release and theatres when it comes to clearance . IMAX theatres will get pics filmed for IMAX over all competition .

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm

Howard it is unlikely , IMAX name on a theatre gives that theatre all the benefits of the name .. They have priority bookings over all competition if it is an IMAX film.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 16, 2013 at 10:21 pm

Roger ,can’t agree with you —Filmmakers have almost no control were there pictures play . A picture in an IMAX release will go to the Chinese first … Period .. They will move it over to the 6 and open a new IMAX film … This is a brilliant move ..

segask
segask on April 16, 2013 at 10:04 pm

so the current THX sound system will be removed, and IMAX speakers/amplifiers will take their place?

RogerA
RogerA on April 16, 2013 at 8:22 pm

Yes I know about zones and how movies are booked into the theaters. I also know that certain studios and certain filmmakers favor certain theaters. Many of the people here seem to think IMAX will make the Chinese profitable again. We will see.

HowardBHaas
HowardBHaas on April 16, 2013 at 6:36 am

Since the Arclight has no Imax, could the Chinese obtain only the Imax version of a film whose non-Imax showings would be at the Arclight?

John Fink
John Fink on April 15, 2013 at 10:17 pm

RogerA – the idea of clearance is if more than one first run cinema in an area (normally 1-2 miles) exists, they will compete for films. Sometimes this zone is broken by the studio (in the case of the two megaplexes in Ontario, CA) – in other areas like NYC (obviously zones are smaller than 2 miles) certain theaters will divide bookings amongst themselves. The most obvious examples being Times Square (the Empire 25 is showing different films than EWalk across the street) and Union Square – with Cinema Village, Quad Cinema, Regal Union Square, AMC Village 7 and City Cinemas Village East 7 – all sharing, none playing the same film.

IMAX which doesn’t guarantee a movie will be a huge success, but its a competitive advantage for sure (like anything in the movie industry its based on what product is available in the market place). An IMAX screen means you’ll get that title as well as the option to show it at the other theatre (the Chinese 6) – perhaps in a variety of formats (2D, 3D, HFR 3D, etc). I believe this and Arc Light have to compete for bookings – and from my last look the Chinese was showing Tyler Perry’s latest film – a hot flick maybe for the first week but probably not packin' them in three weeks out.

RogerA
RogerA on April 14, 2013 at 1:24 pm

Dolby Atmos is a good thing. Definitely better than the standard 5.1 sound.

Giles
Giles on April 13, 2013 at 9:33 pm

well the El Cap and Dolby Theater have the upper hand in that they are both Dolby Atmos equipped, and in my opinion, sound better than standard IMAX 5.0 sound.

RogerA
RogerA on April 13, 2013 at 3:05 pm

Then they can run some one weekend wonders like G.I. Joe in IMAX.

Oh and there is spelled their Longislandmovies. There clearance makes even less sense.

Danny Baldwin
Danny Baldwin on April 13, 2013 at 3:02 pm

The LA Times article said the now standard dual Christie digital IMAX projector would be installed when it re-opens, then the theater would be the first to get laser next year.

I wonder: When a Disney title is offered in IMAX, will it play both the El Cap and the Chinese now, or just one or the other?

Giles
Giles on April 13, 2013 at 2:29 pm

there’s rumour that this will be the flagship/debut of the new Barco/Kodak laser technology that IMAX plans on installing on 4:3 AR screens.

Michael Furlinger
Michael Furlinger on April 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm

There clearance issues will be over …. Smart move ..

RogerA
RogerA on April 13, 2013 at 1:48 pm

So, they will get all the IMAX movies. If that is the solution then so be it. Clearance model what the hell is a clearance model? I Goggled clearance model. It sounds like something taught in business school. But in real life the goal is to put butts in seats. If IMAX does that then great!

As for the pixilation problem Let’s hope IMAX increases it’s resolution and frame rate, 48+fps and 8K should do it.

I saw a road show print of My Fair Lady 70mm in New York on a 100 plus foot screen and the picture was bright, sharp and clear. I could make out the fibers in the actors cloths. Certainly with today’s technology we can do as good if not better than that.